Alexandra Kutina
(Susislavl, Russia) I'm a 44 year old caucasian American. I don't know what site she originally emailed me from - perhaps match.com or americansingles.com. I am still writing to her and she is very much in Love with me. She has asked for Visa money, $350 for an attorney to do it in Moscow (her Uncle's friend) and then later asked if I could at least help with maybe $200 right away or we'll lose the opportunity because the U.S. embassy won't be able to do quick Visa after October 1st, 2004 (surprise!). My coorespondence with her has been from 8/9/2004 through now, which is 9/17/2004 and I am continuing it forward. Perhaps Western Union will like to catch this one. Pictures are different than those that I found for another reporter of same person, but two emails are identical. She phoned me once, left a one minute message. REFERENCE TO: Alexandra Kutina (Susislavl, Russia) FOUND HER ON THE FOLLOWING BLACKPAGE, but note the different spellings, different pictures, different woman shown in pictures, different address, different city, different email address: http://www.womenrussia.com/blackpage279.htm#kutina. NOTE ABOUT DIFFERENT SPELLINGS OF NAMES THAT I GOT: Aleksandra Kutina and Aleksandra Cutina. Email Address she writes from: de_vushka@yahoo.com. The guy reporting the above named "Chip" got a little different initial letter, but the other 2 posted are word for word like two of them I got from my Aleksandra (instead of Alexandra). I got letters almost identical to the ones that were reported, with just a few minor changes, for "personalization." But, the core copy material is identical. I have received 14 emails from her over a 5 week period of time. There are SOME differences. * Different Pictures * Slightly different spellings of name. For example: "Aleksandra Kutina" and "Aleksandra Cutina" * As nickname, she calls herself "Sasha" * She originally called herself Devushka (which in Russian simply means "The Girl") * She said that she lives in "Samara" and not Susislavl, Russia that the other person reporting her states. She later gave me her complete mailing address: Aleksandra Kutina, 65 Dmitrova street, Samara Russia 443000. (NOTE THAT WHEN SHE ASKED ME TO SEND MONEY WESTERN UNION SHE SAID THAT THE BETTER SPELLING OF HER LAST NAME IS CUTINA - NOW WE KNOW WHY - WESTERN UNION HAS APPARENTLY FLAGGED "ALEXANDRA KUTINA" ACCORDING THE OTHER WRITER) To send her money I was told the following info: Use western union. We have several western union agents localy here. So I will be able to receive your money without any problems. They are very fast and reliable. You will need to put in order my name and location. Just in case here is my name and address: Aleksandra Cutina (This spelling is best), 65 Dmitrova street, Samara Russia. I will also need your data to receive transfer: - money transfer control number (MTCN), you will get it in the receipt. - your name and address (as it appears in transfer order) - control question and answer (if you will use it) Write me this information in your email after you send money. You may send money from any western union agent or online from: www.westernunion.com. OTHER INFORMATION OF INTEREST: She said that she doesn't have a phone or a computer at home. She originally said that she was writing from work and that she worked basically 8-5 during the day. But, some of her emails were sent to me after midnight and even 4AM Samara, Russia time! She then said that she couldn't use the internet at work any more because of her boss changing the rules, and that she'd have to pay $1.60 U.S. an hour at an internet club, also having daytime hours - yet some emails were sent in the middle of the night her time. I guess that telling me about her costs would hopefully get me to send some money to help her write to me, since she doesn't make much, etc., though she didn't outright ask me for money at that time. There is a +10 hour time difference between us (me in the U.S. Central Time Zone and her in Samara, Russia). HER FIRST LETTER HAD A PICTURE, WHICH IN THE TEXT SHE SAID WAS VERY RECENT. ONLY PROBLEM: THERE IS A YEAR 2000 CALENDAR ON THE WALL BEHIND HER IN HER OFFICE!
Letters:
LETTER #1 (8/9/2004 1:58 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 11:58 PM) (NOTE: She says her hair is brown, but all of her pictures are blonde! I actually asked her about that but she did not respond)
Hi, Bill. Thank you for your message. I was surprised to find your email. Good surprise. First of all I am sorry that I couldn't reply to you earlier. I am a little skeptical about these dating service in Internet, so I don't check my email box often. But now if we will continue talking I will check it every day. Well, now I tell a little about myself. I am 29 years old. My birthday is on the September 3. And I will be 30. My phisical details: height - 5 ft 5 in (172 cm), weight - 119 lbs (54 kg). I have grey-blue eyes and dark brown hair. I don't smoke. I drink occasionally, red wine or champagne. I have good education. Work as an accountant at small company. I have never been married and I have no children. I keep active life, like sport and outdoors. I have some hobbies, such as reading and listening to music. Also I like cookery and knitting. I like animals and children. As for my personality, I am calm and loyal. Enough emotional and sensible. Religion: I am a Christian but not strong believer. I go to church seldom. My intentions: I'd like to meet good man with kind soul and great sense of humor. I am family oriented person and my goal is to make happy family. I need support and understanding in my life. I want, that it was the kind, sympathetic, decent and honest man. As for me I am ready to become the fond and tender wife, good friend and partner for this man. I attached my photo, the most recent. It was taken this summer. I am at work on it and a little tired but I like it enough. I also want to say that I am serious about my intentions and I am not going to play heart games. I understand that distance may become the obstacle. So we should start from friendship. I like to make friends and if things will not work between us we would stay in touch as good friends. Tell me about yourself and what you think. Waiting for your reply. Devushka. P.S. Some photos for you.
LETTER #2 (8/23/2004 6:31 AM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 4:31 PM)
Hello, Bill. I am very pleased to get your reply. Thank you for your letter. 'd like to know more about you and your life. I am sorry for such long delay in my responding. I use Internet at my work and we had some troubles with local network and there was no Internet connection. Now it works and I hope we'll continue our talking. Well, I will tell a little about myself. I live in Samara. It is old city. The population of our place is about 1,2 million people. The life here is as usual as in the another russian cities. Of course, I must say that it is nice. I also would like to know about your place. As for my work. I work as an accountant in the small company. We sell foodstuff for small shops. I can't say that I like my work, but it is good job which I can get there. I have good education. I am graduate of Social university and I have a deegree in Finance and Business Accounting. I can read and write English, and slightly speak. I don't have enough practice in spoken English but I'd like to have. I want to improve my skills. Recently I got some courses of spoken English and now I attend lectures. About two weeks ago our company was connect to Internet. I like to surf Internet, it is very interesting. And the most striking thing is that I can see all over the world through the computer. I know that I may look silly but I really enjoy this possibility. Yes, I must say that I am begginer with Internet. I use computer at my work and I have not much time in Internet. I don't have computer at home so I can send you a message only when I work. I work 5 days a week so I will be unable to write you on weekends. I have already been surfing for two weeks in Internet. So don't be strict if I don't understand anything. I will learn it. Smile. Well, let me continue. I wanted to tell how I came to conclusion to find someone through Internet. I saw some dating services, I watched ads, but I didn't think that it works. I don't know why I decided to reply to your ad. To be honest I didn't think you would ever write me. I didn't think that it works. But you did. It was so surprised. I am realy glad to talk with you. Well, I am a little confused and I don't know what to say. I hope all this stuff is not too boring to read. Smile. Bill, I have already told you that I want to find someone through Internet. I just wanted to say that it is my serious intention. I am interested in you and I want us to be good friends. Six months ago I lost my boyfriend. It was sad time. But now I want start new life with new person. It seems to me, that you are respectable and honest man. I think we can understand each other. Well, I must close my message now. Waiting for your letter. Yours faithfully
Devushka.
LETTER #3 ( 8/25/2004 12:35 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 10:35 PM )
Hello, my friend. I thank you for your letter and your interest in me. Bill, it is interesting to read about you and your life. I want to know more about you. Please, tell me about your family, friends and people that you know. What is your usual day? I will also tell you what you want to know about me. Also thank you for your photo. You look nice. You asked me for telephone number. I am sorry I don't have a telephone at home. I think for now we could correspond by email. This is good way to know each other better. Later I could call you from pay telephone. I have good time to correspond with you. I enjoy it. I can say it is becoming one of my favourite things. I don't remember if I told you about my hobbies or things I like to do for fun. It seems to me that people who wants to have some relationship must have the same ideas and goals in life and also the same ways for rest and fun. I like different activities like sport, walking, going-out and outdoors. I can't say that I am engaged in sport. I just like it. I like bicycle-riding, swiming and beach especially. Also I like to dance. I dance classic and modern dances. I am an amateur not a professional. I think the real woman should be beautiful both soul and body. My mother teached me to play piano. I also can sing. I will try to learn some english songs. Hope you can hear them someday. Smile. I enjoy cooking. I prefer italian and russian food. My favourite dishes are different soups and salads. I cook great Ukrainian borsch. It is a soup made of beet, meat, cabbage and carrot. Very tasty. Smile. As I said I like reading. I read different books, but prefer books about history and countries. I read a lot of Russia and America. These countries are great. As for fun, I like the same thing like all people. Movie, walking, theatre. I like to drink tea with friends in cafe. We talked about everything and nothing. Smile. I don't have a lot of friends, but all they are good people. To be honest I don't like 'empty' people. My friends are almost my old friends from childhood and youth. They are already almost married. Don't think that I am close person. I like to meet new people and make friends. I am easy-going and I easily strike up new acquaintance. From another side I am not easy approachable woman. I am serious. I think it is from my upbringing. Bill, I don't remember if I told you about my family. I live alone. My mom died about two years ago. And I have never seen my father. The most close person now is my uncle, my mother's brother. He lives with his family, but I am not close to them. His wife thinks my uncle is my lover. Actually we just friends. I think he is like father for me. Silly woman, she can't the friendship between man and woman. I am not angry at her. I am just sorry she is so narrow-minded. My mother was a scientist. She was full professor at college. She was on the historical faculty. From my birth my mother wanted me to become a scientist too. But I didn't. I had enough strict upbringing. I had been not allowed to date with boys until I got 20 years old. My mother was old-fashion person. Probably it is not bad. I loved my mother and respect her. She could give me good upbringing. We didn't have any conflicts. I always try to understand her. She loved me too and just wanted me to be happy. It was the most hard time in my life whe he died. I thank my uncle, he was with me and supported me. I talked with my uncle about you. Are you surprised? We often had confiding talking. He understands me in full. I said him that I meet a man on dating service in Internet. And that this man is from another country. Uncle said that it is great. I asked him what he thinks if I would like to visit this country and maybe to move there. He said that it is OK, if I feel I want it. I am glad with this. Well, hope it is not boring to read. Smile. You see sometimes man must sit and think about his life and about what he is and what he wants. It seems to me that I have this time now. What I want? Simple things. Happiness, family, careful husband. I put spiritual life to the first, not material things. I am not looking for better life or getting rich. I am looking for full life. Why I can't find husband here in Russia? I can, but I don't want. I see how my mother lived, I see how other people live in Russia. Yes, here is bad economics and I don't want to live here. I love my Motherland but I don't like the State. I want to have comfortable life and don't always be in searching good job and better salary. I want to dedicate my life to my husband and my family. I don't want to say that I am lazy. I like to work, but I don't want to dedicate my life to my work. I hope you understand what I am talking about. I see that many russian women try to go out from Russia looking for better life. They mary to foreigners to get citizenship of another state. Then they divorce. I don't like them. I believe in marriage for life. I want to marry for love. Bill, I want you to understand me in full, until we will make some any steps. Tell me what you think about this all and what else you would like to know. Well, this letter seems to be long, so I will close. Until next time. Yours Devushka. P.S. It is my last photo with mother.
LETTER #4 (4:59 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 2:59 AM NEXT DAY)
Hello Bill. Thank you for your writing. It really brights my days. Don't think that is just words. I always mean what I say... Or at least I try to. Smile. Bill I can't still believe you are so far from me. Yes, I understand it but can't imagine it. It seems to me we are old friends and you just live next city. Yes, computer and Internet are like a window to the world. It is fantastic. You know our acquaintance made me to think a little differently about people living in the world. Good change. Of course I knew about other countries and people but before it was like an idea, that I saw on TV, read in books and newspapers. But now I can feel it. Understand me please, I have just touched to different culture, life and people through you. And I saw it is real. Bill I am a person that doesn't believe until he touchs. Smile. I realize you are the same person as I am. We speak different languages, live in the different countries but we want the same things in our lifes. I feel that I am a part of something very huge and important. Thank you for giving me this feeling. Now I want to travel all over the world, to meet new people and to get new experience. I really think it is great fun and useful. What do you think? I actually may look naive but this is what I think. Smile. Yesterday I met my friends. We usually meet at someone's home or go to our favourite cafe. This is pretty nice place. It is small and very cosy. They don't sell alcohol there so it is not very popular. It seems stange? I am not sure you know but usually russians drink a lot. So it is always loudly where alcohol is on sale. My friends don't like to drink too as I do. They are almost my old friends from university or childhood, and a girl from my work. We talk, drink tea, joke, have fun. Very nice people. I live them all. It's a pitty we can't meet often but time or too in month. They almost are married and have family and children so they are constantly busy. Well the matter is that I told them about you. They were really happy for me. They already asked when I come to you. Smile. I explained we are just friends but they still bantered me all evening. They say hello to you. Bill I've just realized you don't know my full name. I want you know. My full name is Aleksandra Kutina. I know I would must said it before. I am sorry for I used my nick name. You may call me any way you like. Also I want to give you my postal address. It is 65 Dmitrova street. Samara Russia 443000. I want you know it just in case I can't write you an email. Please, don't send any presents to me. I would feel very uncomfortable to accept it if I would get them. Our postal system is very unreliable and I don't want you waste your money. Bill also give me your postal address, in case if I don't email you, I may send you some card to let you know I am ok. Well I must already go home. I will continue next time. Aleksandra (or Sasha for short) p.s. Bill I really glad you wrote to me. Smile. Keep writing.
LETTER # 5 (7:14 AM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 5:14 PM)
Hi Bill. I can't write you from my work any more. I have new chief. He just interdict use the internet at personal needs. I couldn't wait when I can come here to computer club to read your letter. It really brights my day. Smile. I am really happy to get your reply. And I like we both enjoy our correspondence. Your letters mean a lot for me. Bill, yesterday evening I told with my uncle about you. He is exciting about our friendly relationship. I read him some parts from your letters. Not all, just some sentenses. Hope you don't mind I share that with my uncle. He is the only close person to me and I trust him. He thinks you are worthy man. But he said I must be cautious. I can understand his feelings. But for me you are honest man and I don't think you can ever deceive me. I know I may be mistaken with my thoughts about you. Only time will say the truth. Smile. To be honest we discussed about my possibility to move to you. Smile. Don't worry, it is just an idea. I understand that it is too early to think about it. But who knows. Maybe at first we would meet in person. Anyway my uncle said that he will support me in my choice and don't mind if I move. Bill, I don't know what is going on with me. I found myself thinking of you often. It seems to me that you are more than just a friend to me. I hope I didn't scare you off with my thoughts. Smile. I wonder what you think about me as your possible life partner? Do you think that we could have common future? I understand if it is too straight question. But I would like to know your opinion. I am honest with you and I want you to be honest with me too. We must trust each other. It's very important in relationship. As for me I see you as my possible partner for life. I know we have great distance between us. But with our letters I feel you close. I believe you are the man with nice soul. I think personal contact is more better than letters via e-mail. But now it is enough to know each other better and see if we realy can have something common in future. Who knows probably we will meet one day and get married. Smile. Well, I continue to tell about me and my life here. My usual day is not too interesting. I get up at 6 o'clock and at 8 I must be at my work. It takes me about 20 minutes to get there by bus or about 40 minutes on foot. I like to go to work on foot because it is very invigorative. Morning, fresh air. Especially now, when spring is coming. Then I am at work until 5. About 6 o'clock I return home. Make some domestic things like cleaning and washing. Three times a week I go to gym, make some aerobics and dances. Sometimes I go to library, theatre, to my friends. When I don't want to go anywhere I stay at home to read a book or play piano, I like to learn a new music composition. In the evenings I watch some film or show on TV and go to bed. Today I got my salary at work. That small pleasant event always makes people to love their work if only for a day. Smile. I don't earn large sum of money. It is 3500 rubles (about $120 USD) for a month. But I am enough satisfied with it. I wish I got more money, but I don't want to become crazy about it. I saw many people who wanted to get much money. Some of them gained it. But they almost changed their personality. They can't talk about anything, only money. Yes, it is difficult to make good money in Russia. But money is not my life goal. For my salary I can buy something of clothes and it is enough to buy food. For russian standard I have less average earnings. I have a TV set and tape-recorder at home. I don't have a car, but I can drive it. I have my bicycle and I enjoy to ride it. Smile. Not sure how interesting it is to read about these things but I want you know. Bill, how much do you earn? I am just interesting. You don't need to answer if you don't want. I know that we have different life levels. But it is interesting what are expenses for living at you. I pay about $50 USD for my flat and electricity. In winter I pay additional 10 for central heating. I am lucky I live in my mother's flat. This flat was given to my mother by the Univercity where she worked. Actually it is not my accomodation. I can just live here. I have only one room and a kitchen. I don't want to complain of something. It is usual things here. I want to show you life here. By the way how much is Internet access where you live? I am paying about 48 roubles for an hour in this computer club (about $1.6 USD for a hour). Bill, tell me about your the same things. I am interesting what is your life there. I thought about my life and recent events. You know from my last relationship with man I understood that the connection between man and woman is very delicate. It needs efforts from both sides to be supported and developed. You can't just date, make love and say words. It is more deeper. My last boyfriend was a photographer. Some my pictures were made by him. He was more than just a photographer, he was an artist, a creator. Our parting was not a tragedy. In the certain time we both understand we are not together and decided to break it. I don't miss him. It was the best we could do. Bill I don't know why I tell it to you. Now I want to create full relationship and I know how to do it. I will try to give all my soul to my man and I need his one for me. Well don't get it too close. It is just my thoughts and I don't claim anything. Smile. Well, I must cut my letter here. Write me more. All what you think and dream. I need it. Looking forward to getting your letter. Take care of you. Goodbye Bill. Aleksandra.
LETTER #6 (4:13 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 2:13 AM NEXT DAY)
Hello Bill. How are you? I am fine. I am sorry for my silence. We had some troubles at my work and I had to do some extra work. Now all things are done and I can visit Internet club. By the way I knew that internet club works on Saturday also from 10 am to 2 pm. I think I will write you on Saturdays too. Don't think I forgot about you. Smile. No, I think of you often. I am very intersting to know you more and I like that we can talk via email. Is it OK for you that I can't write you everyday or regularly? I will try to write as often as I can. To be honest I am a little nervous. Bill, you may ask why I feel a little nervous. I am a little scared about having new serious relationship, particularly, a relationship with you, because I want a relationship with you to work out. I want it to happen, to mature, and excel. Another reason I am nervous is because a serious relationship is a big step. A big step for both of us. And, lastly, I am nervous of the possibility that you will say something like "Sasha, you are a great friend, and I think we should keep things that way". I think I want more. It is based on what you have written me, what you have told me of you, and what you have told me of your thoughts, life and so on. I think that I really want to develop our relationship. I know it may be premature for me to think this way. But I do because I feel this way. Last days I thought about you a lot and I thought about us. I thought may it be possible for us to meet each other one day. I thought how real is Internet. How we can learn each other throught it. Really it seems to me that there is no difference what way we communicate. The important thing is that we can learn each other and to have image of our character in our minds. And it is great. Well, I must go now. I will write again soon. Yours
Sasha.
LETTER #7 (4:28 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 2:28 AM NEXT DAY)
Hi my dear Bill. I am always happy to receive your letters. Thank you. Today we have great weather. Sunny and enough warm. Spring is coming. I like this thime very much. It is very good time for walking in the parks here. I would like you were here and we could go for walk and talk with each other. You know Bill I miss you. Smile... Yes, I have never seen you but I miss you. With our correspondence I feel you close to me. Don't know how it may happen but I have a feeling we know each other for a long time. My birthday was OK. Some friends came to me and we have close evening. I don't like to make magnificent parties. I better like friendly atmosphere. We had a lot of fun and nice dinner. I made a roast, some salads and baked a pie. Bill I am sorry I can't write you long letter today. I have some things to do today and I must go. I just wanted to let you know that I received your message and I think about you. Bye. Yours Sasha. p.s. I will check about visa and passport at next week.
LETTER #8 ( 2:34 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 12:34 AM NEXT DAY)
Hi, Bill. I am really happy we are in touch. Thank you for your letters. They make my days. I think of you constantly. You are very close to me. I don't know how it could happen so fast. It is amazing. I feel you very close, but I can't see you. You see we both are sincere with each other. I think it is the way people must comunicate with each other. I think that we mustn't hide our feelings and thoughts. I do it. I am ready to give myself to the destiny. I believe in fortune. I think I am lucky to find you. Bill I miss you in the evenings. Sometimes at nights I dream of you. I see you smiling and whispering my name. You know I wish you were here next to me or I were near you. I want to touch your hand, to see in your eyes and whisper your name... Sweet dream. I believe we are compartible and we could be a great couple. I have thought a lot about us and came to conclusion. Bill we must meet in person. I want to touch your hand and see into your eyes. Really. I thought is it really so hard for us to meet? We live on the same planet, just in different places. Bill I want to visit you. Would you like to meet me in person? Would you like to see me in real? I want it. I think if we both want it we can do it. Is it a crazy idea? We met in virtual space. We found out that we have common thoughts and ideas for living. We both need someone in our lifes. We like each other. So we must meet. We must meet to see if we are persons who we see in our letters and our thoughts. We should meet to learn each other more, to talk, to feel each other. We should check up our expectation in real life. I don't see the sense to continue our corresponds and to make image of our relationship in our minds. I think we must meet and see if the things will work out between us, see if we will fall in love with each other. Without meeting in person we can't create full understanding of person. I want to meet you and to develop our relationship. I know we met in Internet but we met each other. It means a lot. Bill I would like to visit you this autumn. I will have vacation and I think it would be good time to meet. Tell me what you think about it? Bill, I really feel nervous right now. I don't want to stay friends. You see it is not enough for me. I want more. You may think I am crazy, we never met. I understand. But can't do anything with it. I feel this way and I am ready to continue our relationship in more close manner. I told with my uncle about this. He is very exciting for me. But he doesn't mind. He said "it is your life Sasha and you are worth to have your happy". He also said that he has good friend in Moscow who works as a lawyer in emigration field. Uncle said he will help me with all paperworks. I will learn about what papers I need to make and then I will tell you. I don't know how long it will take me and how hard it will be. Bill I want also to enlist your support. Can you help me if I need something from you? I don't know what exactly, maybe some information about you or something else. Do you think it is possible for us to meet? I think yes. I believe in fortune and I think it smiled on us. If we could meet each other in Internet we can meet in real. I am sure we will have happy future together. Bill I am so excited thinking of it. Yes, I surely want to embrace you and I will do everything that depends from me to make us met. Please, write sooner what you think. I am sorry if this letter is a little chaotic. I am just very exciting. With love. Yours Sasha. p.s. I want to visit, but who know maybe I will stay with you. Smile. Thank you for your nice photos.
LETTER # 9 (6:10 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 4:10 AM NEXT DAY) --- the request for VISA MONEY (THIS IS BASICALLY IDENTICAL TO THE ONE THAT CHIP GOT)
Hi Bill. I want to tell you very serious thing. Bill, I have done some research for coming to you. And I have good results. I talked to my uncle's friend about it. He works as a lawyer in immigration agency in Moscow. His company helps people to solve all questions about travels, organized tours and immigration. They also make all paperworks and passport required for travelers. I got his professional advice about my wish to come to you. He said that I would need visa and passport to come to you. His company can make all these papers in 10 days. This company is connected with American Embassy. That's why they work so quickly. I asked what I would need to do and he told me about all stages in this process. At first I need to apply for visa in this company. They will make an inquiry into embassy in Moscow. Usually it takes about two days. After they will receive authorization for my visa I will need to contract for their service. Then they will start their work. I will get visa, all papers and passport in 10 days. Then I can get ticket for a plane and fly to you. Their service costs $350 USD. I know this is a lot, but it is fast and reliable. The lawyer said I can try to get visa by myself but it will take more time, about 6-12 months. I will need to come to embassy and apply for visa. The pay is about $150 USD. Then I will need to come there some times to sign different papers and wait. You see it could take more time, money and nerve finally. What do you think of this occasion? I think it is great chance for us to meet. There is the reason we must hurry with it. This company have a licence to issue visas. But the government of the USA decided to limit number of visas since this year. This company will not issue visas any longer since October 1, 2004. The only way to get visa will be the embassy and it is very hard, almost impossible for lonely young woman. So I will not be able to get visa that way. Also the lawyer said that they have limited number of visas they can issue for this year. This is the rule of US Embassy. Now they have few visas they can give. He said if I want to get visa I must do it as soon as possible. You see we must hurry if we want to meet in person. I must say that I have already applied for visa. Don't you mind? Bill, I love you and I need to meet you in person. We must do it as soon as possible. You know I haven't $350 USD. It makes me so sad. What can I do? I hate I have no this money. And I feel very uncomfortable to ask you for money. If I could pay for it I would do it without any doubts. I can get about $50 USD for visa but I need another 300. Bill, I know we will be happy together. Please, help me with visa money, help us to meet. As for visa's period of validity it works for 3 months. I can prolong it if I will need. And I also can marry you if we will decide to do it. Bill, please, think of it. It is our chance, we can't miss it. I must pay for visa next week. You see they take payment in advance usually. But the lawyer made an exception for me, because he is my uncle's friend. And I promised to pay in these days. I can't let him down. Trust me Bill. It is the best way we can meet. If you really want to meet me and help, please send money these days. Use western union. We have several western union agents localy here. So I will be able to receive your money without any problems. They are very fast and reliable. You will need to put in order my name and location. Just in case here is my name and address: Aleksandra Cutina (This spelling is best), 65 Dmitrova street, Samara Russia. I will also need your data to receive transfer: - money transfer control number (MTCN), you will get it in the receipt. - your name and address (as it appears in transfer order) - control question and answer (if you will use it) Write me this information in your email after you send money. You may send money from any western union agent or online from: www.westernunion.com Bill, I understand that it is maybe too fast and rush, but we need it. We can meet and we must use this chance. I know it is much money but I don't have this money. I think I could save this sum in an year but we can't wait so long. Bill, you see it will be the first step to our future. I must get visa at first. I understand that it may take some months to save money for ticket. I will try to find them here, at least part of them. But I can't find money for visa in such short time. Help me. I do it, because I love you and I trust you. I believe in our future, I believe in you. I love you. Yours Sasha. p.s. I am sorry if I seem too pressing in this letter, I've just wanted to let you know how important it is for us to meet.
LETTER #10 (9/15/2004 5:58 AM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 3:58 PM) LETTER WHERE SHE IS HURT BY MY NOT BELIEVING HER LAWYER, ETC. (THIS IS BASICALLY IDENTICAL TO THE ONE THAT CHIP GOT)
Hi Bill. I still feel uncomfortable for asking money from you. Probably I hadn't do it. I don't know. Bill I can imagine how you feel. But see I have a risk too coming to you. I have told to many people about it. And I have heard some negative stories about girls coming to another country. The usual was about Americans who invited Russian girls to come to America. Then Americans took girls' passports and made them to work as prostitutes or kept them as slaves at home. I know you are not like them. It was very hard desision for me to come to you. I thought a lot about it. And it is not irrational decision. I understand you are careful and you can't trust me completely, but what can I do to prove you my intentions. I just was trying to be completely honest with you so you could see my real soul. I am sorry I couldn't do it. I know only one thing. If you want to get something you should do it by yourself because no one wants to help you. I've done big work to find the way to come to you, I've prepared all papers. I cast aside all my uncertainty and doubts about my fears. I know if things will not work between us and if you turn out not what you told about I will stay in the street without money and any support. But I trust you and I want to meet you to start new life together. To be honest I expected your help. I don't know if you will help me with money or not. I don't care about it. I will do everything by myself. I don't know if I will find money here or not. We will see it. I must pay for my visa paperworks next week. I will write you later and let you know if I have visa or not. Bill I just can't understand your words. You said come to me. But you don't believe me. How can you know that we will be happy together and I will not run from you with all your money. You want to be happy but you can't overcome your fears. Why others' opinion is stronger than yours own? Why you believe other people, but don't confide your heart? I ask myself why people are so distrustful. Is the reason money? I hear words about love and trust about future life but when matter is money I become a fraud. I hate it. Money rules the world? Do you think so? When the matter is money other things disappear. Why? You can check me, my words, my background. I don't care. I am not afraid because I am honest with you. But it hurts when you think so. Well Bill I finish my letter. I don't want to say something offensive for you. You are the adult and you make your choice. I can't judge you. Always yours. Sasha. P.S. I don't think Lawyer deceive me.
LETTER #11 (9/15/04 5:58 AM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 3:58 PM) (NOTE: SHE DELETED ONE OF MY EMAILS AND SAYS TO RESEND??)
Hello dear Bill. How are you? Hope fine. I am sorry I delete your last e-mail by mistake, please resend it. Yours Sasha. P.S. I will wait your e-mail.
LETTER #12 (9/16/2004 7:26 PM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 5:26 AM NEXT DAY) (NOTE: TO KEEP HER GOING ON WITH THIS, I apologized to her, and asked her to forgive me - I told her I'd try to do what I can for her soon. )
Hello. Bill I understand your situation about the money. I don't know what to say. I fell so uncomfortable about my letter where I asked you to send money. And I am sorry that I made you to feel ill at ease. I didn't want to mean that you must pay all expenses for my coming. I just thought you can help me. You see this situation with visa made me to ask you for help. I am afraid that I can't find money in time and can't obtain it through my lawyer. I will need to apply for visa by myself and it may be unsuccessful. I don't want to complain of something but I just want you to understand me right way. Bill I have enough income to live here. My salary is not well, but it is enough to pay expenses for living, buy food and some clothes. It is enough to live inside the Russia, but when I want to come somewhere outside it is impossible for me. Most Russian people can't afford to travel because it is expensive. It is the reason why I traveled so little. When I travelled to Egypt I had to save money for about 18 months. A ticket for a group tour cost about $250 and I lived at minimum expenses just to travel there. It was my dream and I did it. Bill I hoped our meeting is our dream too. I hoped for your help but if you can't do it I understand. I know that in this life I must rely only on myself. You see Bill I can't ask anyone for help except you. I can realize that you don't know all about our economic situation. I work for State. It is not well paid and I don't get my salary regularly. I even don't get money every month. Sometimes I have to work two or three months without salary. Medicine, education and science realms have very poor financing in Russia. My uncle gets his salary regularly because he has another part of his work in commercial project. Some businessman interested in their research and invested his money. Many people think he is lucky. But it is temporary work. If I ever come to the USA I want to have some job to help to my uncle with money. I think I can send him at least 50 dollars a month because he often helped me and he is like a father for me. Bill I am not disappointed. I like to overcome hardship. I have tried to take a loan from bank. But they rejected to me because I have no any property like flat or car. I can't take money from my friends, they have the same income as I do and almost have their children. They need to care of them not me. Please understand me right way. I just want to show you real situation about me. To be honest I thought about it when I decided to write to you first time. But I hoped that money will not be the issue. I still don't think it was wrong decision to write you. I talked with the lawyer. I asked him to delay my payment. He agreed to wait a week. I know some people I will try to borrow money from. They are not my friends but they have money. Actually I am not sure they will lend me this sum, but I will try. Bill, I hope you understand me now. I don't ask you for money. I ask you for help. It seems to me that you can easier find money than I do. I understand if you can't. In any case the relationship between us is most important and we should save it first. In any case I want to keep in touch with you. Hope this issue didn't change your feelings to me. I just miss you and I want to meet you. Next year may be unsuccessful for getting visa. Please help me. I am giving way to despair. Sasha.
LETTER #13 (9/16/2004 7:17 AM CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE: 5:17 PM) (NOTE: --- NOW THAT SHE HAS ACCEPTED MY "APOLOGY" AND THINKS THAT I'M GOING TO HELP HER IF I CAN, SHE NOW ASKS FOR JUST PART OF THE $350 - MAYBE I COULD HELP WITH AT LEAST $200 AND SHE CAN BORROW $100 + THE $50 SHE ALREADY HAD. NOTE THAT I ALSO TOLD HER THE TRUE STORY ABOUT HOW MY RELATIVES IN FLORIDA AND ALABAMA JUST GOT HIT BY HURRICANE IVAN AND I MAY HAVE TO HELP THEM! )
Hi, Bill. I am really glad to see your letter. It is the only reason for me to check my email box. Bill I am sad we have the problem with money to get me visa. Please tell me when you will be able to send money. I am afraid the lawyer can't wait too long. I will try to ask him to delay payment as long as he can but we must pay soon. Bill please try to get money, I think I will get another $100 from my friends but it is all I can get. Please see if you could send at least $200. We must pay for visa. It may happen that I will not be able to get visa later. Bill don't make me to give up our future together. Bill I must say to you some words. I love you. I don't know how you react to it. But these words are sincere from me. You see my heart says that you are my right man. I understand that it is too fast to fall in love with the man that you have never met in real. But also our meeting started not from flirtation but from honest words. We have been sincere with each other. We both need some one in this life. We both like each other. We started our relations from learning our thoughts and dreams. We both know what other wants. We shared our thoughts and we have a lot common. I don't know what you think of me now. Maybe you think I am crazy or you share my opinion. You see if the man knows what he wants he must do something to get it, but not to sit and think of it all time. I know that I love you. I know you are careful, honest and strong man. You cannot deceive me. I know that you are the man that I have been searching for. To my mind this situation about Internet helps us to develop our relationship in shot time. We've just jumped the long period of acquaintance and adaptation to each other. At first we started from the point that other people reach in some months or more. See Bill, people meet, adapt to each other. Then after some time they begin to consider their common goals and intentions. Then they decide possibility of living together or having some kind of relationship. So the end point of this situation is exchange of thoughts. We reach it without preparatory stage. To my opinion, the most important thing in relations between man and woman is spiritual contact and understanding without words. Other things are less important and some have no importance at all. For me love is the thing you can't describe. It comes from inside of you. You just want to make happy the man you love. And there is no any criterion of appreciation to it. Well I said enough for now. Bill I love you. It is true. I will think of you and wait your reply. I will write you soon. With love, always yours Sasha. P.S. I am very sorry about your relatives. I hope they will ok.
LETTER #14 (9/17/2004 12:48 pm CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME - SAMARA, RUSSIA TIME WOULD BE:10:48 AM NEXT DAY) - (NOTE: MORE OF MY TELLING HER ABOUT MY RELATIVES, BUT THAT I'M DOING EVERYTHING THAT I CAN TO HELP EVERYONE. I EVEN TOLD HER THAT I WOULD DROP OUT OF SCHOOL (I'M A 44 YEAR OLD RETURNING COLLEGE STUDENT) AND MAYBE HAVE TO WORK 80 HOURS A WEEK TO HELP MY RELATIVES AND HELP HER, ETC. )
Hi, my love. Bill I am very happy to get your reply. It impressed me. It moved me to tears. Bill, thank you for your being. You see I have the reason to live now. I want to live long life with you and to be happy together. I am sure that I want it. And it must come true. Bill I have never felt thus. I feel like I was asleep. I have waked just now. I see the world with another look. I see all colours of life. I love you. I live only for your letters. What about my dreams they have changed. I think about you often and wonder how pleasant it will be to spend a lot of time with you holding hands and walking in a park or dining out in a nice restaurant. Bill I understand your money situation but we must pay sooner. You see we can't let the laywer down. He has made a lot for me to help. Please see if you can borrow this sum anywhere. I will ask the lawyer to delay payment but I am afraid he can't wait so long. Please understand we can't miss the chance to get visa. It is the first thing we must do. I must pay visa at the latest the at next week monday. Can you help? Please answer at this questions. I don't know what to do. Bill I am very worried about you being without me. I am afraid that I can lose you. If something happen with you and you can't tell me I probably will go crazy. Be careful, please, and save yourself for me. I will bless God for you. I love you Bill. I wish I was be able to embrace you now. But I can just think of you and read your letters. Write me more, please. I will write you more later. Bye my love. I am thinking of you. Yours
Sasha.
   
Ekaterina or Lira Zhestyankina aka Ksenia Kashkirova from
Cheboksary, Russia
I would like to report a scammer named Ekaterina or Lira Zhestyankina aka Ksenia Kashkirova from Cheboksary. The information that I have on her is as follows: Ekaterina Zhestyankina, 8-306 Kooperativnaya St., Cheboksary 428000, Russia. Tel 7-8352-21-84-05, DOB December 17, 1981 and also Jan 15, 1981. E-mail used: lira_love@hotbox.ru. She has a profile listed at Free Russian Personals and I contacted her through this site. Her first profile was removed but she once again posted another profile under the name of Ksenia Kashkirova # 152710. She really did not answer any questions in my letters to her and was very evasive in giving me her address and telephone number and it took repeated letters and asking her for this information before she finally gave it to me. She certainly was not shy in asking for money ( $200!) for help in her letter costs in using the internet and this was only after her 3rd letter to me, as she wastes no time:
Letters:
Hi dear Frank! How are you doing? I hope you are ok. Could you call me today: 7-8352-21-84-05. I wannna hear your voice. And tell me when you will be able to come to Russia. I wanna see you very much. And you? I'll be waiting for your call. Have a nice day! Hope to hear from you soon. Bye-bye! You
LIra!
Hi dear Frank! How are you doing? I was very glad to receive your letter. How is your weather? You know it's very cold here. I want you to be with me. I'm glad you liked my photos. On these photos I'm real, without any make-up. My friends always tell me I'm very pretty. Unfortunately now I can't send you my photos, but next time I promise to do it. How is your work? When will you be able to come to me? I can't write you any more. I'm sorry! Oh, you can call me tomorrow, when it will be 8 p.m. in Russia. I spend very little time at home, that's why call me tomorrow in the evening. And you can send me money on my adress with the help of Westrn Union . And I'll get these money that very day, and i'll be able to send you my photos at once. Have a nice day! I'll be thinking of you! Bye!!!! Your Lira!!!!!
Hi dear Michael! How are you doing? I hope fine. Sorry for being silent for so long time. I just had a little probleme. I have scraped together to go to an internet-club and write you a letter. I'm very shy, but could you send me some money, for 100-200$. Do you like my photo? I hope you do. Well, I can't write you any more. I'm really very sorry. I wanna meet you as soon as posible. When are you going to come to me? Hope to hear from you soon. Have a nice day! Bye!!! Your Lira!!! P.S. Here is my adress: Zhestyankina Ekaterina(this is my real name) 8-306 Kooperativnaya St., Cheboksary 428000, Russia.
Hello dear Michael! How are you doing? I'm fine. Sorry for being silent for so long time. I have a reasonable excuse. I've just been out of the town. I've been to the countryside in a camp with a group of children. It was some kind of our practice. Well, you know I'm going to a techer, so I must know the way of treating children. I like children very much. I hope you are not angree with me for not replying you at once. That's great that you like ocean!I also like spending my time at beach. But unfortunately I have never seen ocean.I was swimming only in a sea. What do you do during your free time? What are you going to do on New Year's Day? Is it very cold in your country? It is very-very cold in Russia. Thanks for calling me a pretty girl ! And I don't know how I have a good shape. I just have it, that's all. Would you like to visit my country? I think it would be more convinient to communicate. Do you also think so? Sorry, may be you think I'm in a hurry, that it's too early ? O.K. Everything will be as you think to be the best way out. But I do want to see you in real life, and I want you to see me too. I thought it would be great if you call me. Tell me what you think of it, and if you are agree, I'll give you my telephone number. Well, I think that's all for today. Have a nice day! I'll be waiting for your letter. Bye-bye! Your Lira!
Hi Frank! How are you doing? I'm fine. I was glad to receive your letter. I'm a student at the faculty of foreign languages. I study English and French. So I'm going to be a teacher of these languages. I live in a very beautiful town- Cheboksary. I'd like to know more about you. I think you are a very serious man. If you can , please, send me your photo. Well , I think that's all for the first letter. If you want to know something more about me , ask. next time I'll send you my photo. Bye-bye! Ever your, Lira!
   
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