Natalya Grosgova
natalya@stopor_com(Yelkino, Serov, Russia)
I was contacted by Natalya through
webdate.com. Her profile there states her as osininka from Austin Texas
but as she wrote back stating she was from yelkino, serov Russia.
She is 28 years old, works in a spa as a trainer, cannot use the computer except at
work (Monday- Friday) no parent's grew up in orphanage, new a lady named anastyasia,
who left her everything, has a friend Elana with breast cancer. we have emailed for 2
months, i thought this was a scam and played along with her after reviewing others on the black
list. She sends the same letters as another girl Anna Rak on the blacklist and now I have
received her letter stating she got her Visa and need's help. I have photo of her visa and address to where to send money to at western
union. I have also found her under this name on the Updated black
list. Do not let her fool you she will make you believe.. Here is her Information: Natalya Grosgova.
Uralpromstroybank, Tolstogo 17, serov, 624440, Russia.
Letters:
Date: Thursday, November 25, 2004 1:40 AM
Hi my beloved Tim. I know that in America the begins big holiday, you have my best congratulations for your holiday Thanksgiving. Today after my work I went to visas firm. I was told that my visa was ready at last, (I send you it's SCAN). I was most happy the person at that time. But this firm not only makes visas, it also reserve tickets. I decided to use their service again. I have bought the ticket on a train up to Moscow. I paid a part of the ticket. But this money is not enough. I don't want to burden you. I want to reach you with my own money but unfortunately I have failed. Now I have to pay the remaining part. It is only 300 USD. I must pay this money before November 27, Otherwise I will lose my money. If you love me, if you trust me and if you want to see me soon, please, send the money for the ticket before November 26, tomorrow morning. I understand that it is a difficult decision for you, but we must trust each other. Any union without trust is impossible if it is a union of wife and husband or a union of boy-friend and girl-friend or a union of business partners. I don't want to be hypocritical. That's why I want to tell you following: I do not think that you would like to give the love to the woman whom you don't trust. So I am. It's a first check for us. And much depends upon it, may be everything. We must trust each other. That's why I was the first who made first step. Step to you. I was told that the flight to Baltimore costed 901.70 USD. It was too expensive for me, and I asked them to find the cheapest variant. And they offered. It would be on the December 3 and cost 850.50 USD. I wondered if it was possible to reserve a ticket and to pay for it a part of the money this time and the other part later. But they refused and I was in despair. I asked them to help me so long that tears came to my eyes. And they agreed. So I went to pawnshop and pawned silver and gold embellishments which I had from Anastasiya. I got 300 USD and that was enough for initial payment. I have paid in whole 550.50 USD. It was my last money. The number of the flight on which I resevered the ticket is 2:40 pm Depart Moscow (SVO) Aeroflot-Russian International Airlines 303 Air Canada 7936 Connect in Toronto (YYZ) Arrive Baltimore (BWI) 10:17 pm. It is very difficult for me to tell you about it. But I have done everything I can. I paid visa and more than half for the ticket. Of course if you don't want you can not help me. It is bad but not fatal. I will lose my money. I speak so because I am in despair and confusion. Now, when we are divided only with one step, I am afraid. I am afraid that you will not help, and all my diligence will be gone. I love you and I want to be with you and the word of honour, your help is necessary for me. I have not calculated my forces. But together we are much stronger. It is much easier to go through difficulties and barrier together. I want to present you all my infinite love and fidelity. I did not want to ask you. I thought, that I can make all it self. The loneliness has made me strong. I have got used to live without the help, and to rely only on myself. I very seldom address to somebody for the help, but now I ask you to help me. I have made a step forward. Make also you a step towards to me. I hope that has not offended you. I love you and I trust. I know, that you will not throw me now when there is only one step. Tell me Tim, can you help me? If you have an opportunity please help me. I wonder how it is possible to do. There is an International Western Union (by the way, they have a website, called www.westernunion.com). You may send me money using Western Union according following data: URALPROMSTROYBANK. TOLSTOGO 17, SEROV, 624440. RUSSIA For Natalya Grosgova. To get the money, I should tell the employee of bank your full name, full address, exact amount and some confidential numbers (Money Transfer Control Number), which will be given to you, when you send the money. I love you very much! I think about you Tim every time. Forever yours
Natalya.
Hi my beloved Tim. I know that in America the begins big holiday, you have my best congratulations for your holiday Thanksgiving. Today after my work I went to visas firm. I was told that my visa was ready at last, (I send you it's SCAN). I was most happy the person at that time. But this firm not only makes visas, it also reserve tickets. I decided to use their service again. I have bought the ticket on a train up to Moscow. I paid a part of the ticket. But this money is not enough. I don't want to burden you. I want to reach you with my own money but unfortunately I have failed. Now I have to pay the remaining part. It is only 300 USD. I must pay this money before November 27, Otherwise I will lose my money. If you love me, if you trust me and if you want to see me soon, please, send the money for the ticket before November 26, tomorrow morning. I understand that it is a difficult decision for you, but we must trust each other. Any union without trust is impossible if it is a union of wife and husband or a union of boy-friend and girl-friend or a union of business partners. I don't want to be hypocritical. That's why I want to tell you following: I do not think that you would like to give the love to the woman whom you don't trust. So I am. It's a first check for us. And much depends upon it, may be everything. We must trust each other. That's why I was the first who made first step. Step to you. I was told that the flight to Baltimore costed 901.70 USD. It was too expensive for me, and I asked them to find the cheapest variant. And they offered. It would be on the December 3 and cost 850.50 USD. I wondered if it was possible to reserve a ticket and to pay for it a part of the money this time and the other part later. But they refused and I was in despair. I asked them to help me so long that tears came to my eyes. And they agreed. So I went to pawnshop and pawned silver and gold embellishments which I had from Anastasiya. I got 300 USD and that was enough for initial payment. I have paid in whole 550.50 USD. It was my last money. The number of the flight on which I resevered the ticket is 2:40 pm Depart Moscow (SVO) Aeroflot-Russian International Airlines 303 Air Canada 7936 Connect in Toronto (YYZ) Arrive Baltimore (BWI) 10:17 pm. It is very difficult for me to tell you about it. But I have done everything I can. I paid visa and more than half for the ticket. Of course if you don't want you can not help me. It is bad but not fatal. I will lose my money. I speak so because I am in despair and confusion. Now, when we are divided only with one step, I am afraid. I am afraid that you will not help, and all my diligence will be gone. I love you and I want to be with you and the word of honour, your help is necessary for me. I have not calculated my forces. But together we are much stronger. It is much easier to go through difficulties and barrier together. I want to present you all my infinite love and fidelity. I did not want to ask you. I thought, that I can make all it self. The loneliness has made me strong. I have got used to live without the help, and to rely only on myself. I very seldom address to somebody for the help, but now I ask you to help me. I have made a step forward. Make also you a step towards to me. I hope that has not offended you. I love you and I trust. I know, that you will not throw me now when there is only one step. Tell me Tim, can you help me? If you have an opportunity please help me. I wonder how it is possible to do. There is an International Western Union (by the way, they have a website, called www.westernunion.com). You may send me money using Western Union according following data: URALPROMSTROYBANK. TOLSTOGO 17, SEROV, 624440. RUSSIA For Natalya Grosgova. To get the money, I should tell the employee of bank your full name, full address, exact amount and some confidential numbers (Money Transfer Control Number), which will be given to you, when you send the money. I love you very much! I think about you Tim every time. Forever yours Natalya.
   
Natalya Grozkova
(Serov, Yelkino, Russia)
Hi, My name is Scott from Virginia i'm 43 & single, I was first contacted by Natalya about a month & a half ago through WebDate.Com, She said that she saw my profile & wanted to chat. About 2 to 3 weeks into the emails she started saying about how nice i was & that she was falling in love with me & wanted to meet me, so she decided to get a visa & come to the U.S. I tried to tell her that now was not a good time but she ignored that, when i tried to ask her to call me first she never did, she just wrote back saying that she got her visa & a plane ticket but didn't have quite enough money & wanted me to send her $350 USD of which i did not, she wrote me back & said that a friend gave her the rest of the money & that she was coming, below is the last email i received from her asking for money, I'm sorry that i don't have any of the pictures that she had sent but she has already done this to someone that has posted their story on this site with photos of her, her name goes as Natalya Grozkova. Thank You, Scott
Letters:
Hi my beloved Scott. This letter is from the almost lucky lady. Why is ''almost''? As today after my work I went to visas firm. I was told that my visa was ready at last, (I send you it's SCAN). I was most happy the person at that time. But this firm not only makes visas, it also reserve tickets. I decided to use their service again. I was told that the flight to Washington costed 801.70 USD. It was too expensive for me, and I asked them to find the cheapest variant. And they offered. It would be on the 23 November and cost 750.50 USD. I wondered if it was possible to reserve a ticket and to pay for it a part of the money this time and the other part later. But they refused and I was in despair. I asked them to help me so long that tears came to my eyes. And they agreed. I wasted all my money, but it wasn't enough. So I went to pawnshop and pawned silver and gold embellishments which I had from ANASTASIYA. I got 200 USD and that was enough for initial payment. I have paid in whole 400.50 USD. It was my last money. The number of the flight on which I resevered the ticket is 1:05 pm Depart Moscow (SVO) Aeroflot-Russian International Airlines 251 Air France 26 Connect in Paris (CDG) Arrive Washington DC (IAD) 6:55 pm. It is very difficult for me to tell you about it. But I have done everything I can. I paid visa. I have bought the ticket on a train up to Moscow. I paid a part of the ticket. But this money is not enough. I don't want to burden you. I want to reach you with my own money but unfortunately I have failed. Now I have to pay the remaining part. It is only 350 USD. I must pay this money before November 11, Otherwise I will lose my money. If you love me, if you trust me and if you want to see me soon, please, send the money for the ticket before November 9, tomorrow morning. I understand that it is a difficult decision for you, but we must trust each other. Any union without trust is impossible if it is a union of wife and husband or a union of boy-friend and girl-friend or a union of business partners. I don't want to be hypocritical. That's why I want to tell you following: I do not think that you would like to give the love to the woman whom you don't trust. So I am. It's a first check for us. And much depends upon it, may be everything. We must trust each other. That's why I was the first who made first step. Step to you. Of course if you don't want you can not help me. It is bad but not fatal. I will lose my money. IT IS TOO BAD BUT NOT TOO FATAL . I speak so because I am in despair and confusion. Now, when we are divided only with one step, I am afraid. I am afraid that you will not help, and all my diligence will be gone. I love you and I want to be with you and the word of honour, your help is necessary for me. I have not calculated my forces. But together we are much stronger. It is much easier to go through difficulties and barrier together. I want to present you all my infinite love and fidelity. I did not want to ask you. I thought, that I can make all itself. The loneliness has made me strong. I have got used to live without the help, and to rely only on myself. I very seldom address to somebody for the help, but now I ask you to help me. I have made a step forward. Make also you a step towards to me. I hope that has not offended you. I love you and I trust. I know, that you will not throw me now when there is only one step. Tell me Scott, can you help me? If you have an opportunity please help me. I wonder how it is possible to do. There is an International Western Union (by the way, they have a website, called www.westernunion.com). You may send me money using Western Union according following data: TRANSCREDITBANK LENINA, 242A SEROV , 624991, RUSSIA. For Natalya Grozkova. To get the money, I should tell the employee of bank your full name, full address, exact amount and some confidential numbers (Money Transfer Control Number), which will be given to you, when you send the money. I love you very much! I think about you Scott every time. Forever yours
Natalya.
Tatyana Karpova
(Kaluga, Soviet Union) I am a single father of 2 who was on a Christian website ( www.singlec.com ) and received a warm and friendly note from Tatyana ( talinora@rambler.ru ), a single 26year old attractive woman. She wrote me for a period of 2 weeks a total of 9 times... each time sending a very professional looking picture. Her letters would include a few lines of personalized exchange, but mostly canned text. Within 3 letters she was in love.
Letters:
The initial letter from her was as
follows:
Hello my new friend Michael! I am very glad, that you have answered me and have not disregarded my letter. Many thanks for a photo; you have very much liked me. I am very glad, that you have become interested in me. And I shall try, that you were not disappointed with me and to learn as much as possible about me. But I as would like to learn you better. I ask you write about myself more in detail. You see " the First Sight " allows to see only that is obvious. And when to learn people it is better, than an estimation of character traits, outlooks may vary, and is cardinal. You to me seem very good person, I hope, we will manage to learn soon each other better.Well I shall inform in brief about myself directly. I the usual Russian girl, actually am not distinguished by anything from others. It is probable to describe itself, it would be easier for me, if I did not make it for the first time. At me words and ideas because I worry slightly are confused. I did not expect, that you will answer me, and when I have seen your letter, me as if a current have struck in heart and now I sit behind the computer and I do not know that to you to write. Excuse me if I shall do many mistakes in the letter, I not absolutely well know English. So if to you something will be not clear, you ask me again. I to learn the English language all over again when went to school, and then still to learn in Institute. And consequently I can read your letters without assistance and write to you. By the way I have ended the Moscow institute of economy, on a speciality the Economist. But now I work as the insurance agent. About my work I shall write to you someho! w in other letters. As it is told in my structure, to me of 26 years and I live in city of Kaluga. There I also was born. Kaluga is located not too far from Moscow - capitals of Russia. It is very old and beautiful city as the city represents a surprising combination of architectural, historical and cultural curiosities which give to city uniqueness and originality.I live one, separately from my parents. Fortunately we live in one city, and I frequently meet them. I do not have brothers and sisters. With this letter I shall send you a photo of me. I hope, the photo is pleasant to you. On character I the cheerful person, enjoy each moment of my life, and try to overcome with a smile all difficulties of my lonely life. I do not have harmful habits, I do not smoke and I do not use alcohol, unless only in small quantity on holidays. Most of all from alcoholic drinks I like a red wine. I very much like walks on fresh air, I very much love a nature. I love active life, a camping site, travels. To a regret I did not go anywhere for limits of Russia. And consequently I never was abroad. This summer we together with friends frequently went on rest in a wood to float on lakes. I very much like to float, with childhood I liked to float, went to pools. Even now I very much frequently visit pools, only when at me the good mood and is a free time. A! s I like to dance and like to play bowling. Near to us there is an Entertaining centre " the Moon - 2000 ", we frequently together with girlfriends go to have a rest there. There there is literally everything, that only will wish. Now my overall objective in life is to find that only thing, the second part of me with which I can go through all difficulties of life. Together to meet pleasure, occurrence of children, to grow them, to surround with care, to present them the happy childhood, I so to dream of it!!! I think, that you understand me and your vital purposes are similar to mine, I in soul hope, that sometime our hearts will meet. Persons who wants to have reliable family and fair attitudes. I hope, you liked my letter, and it has turned out not too big. I want, that you have more soon answered me. Write to me about itself, than you are engaged and that like, I all to want to know about you. With impatience I shall wait from you the letter. If you have photo that, please, send to me them. Sincerely your friend from Russia Tanya!
On the 8th letter she indicated she needed a VISA, physical exam and related paperwork done at the cost of $400 USD. The 9th letter thanked me ( for I had done nothing to this point) and gave detail on how to send monies ).
I am very glad, that you have decided to help me in registration of the visa. Lovely, I very much would not like to burden you with the difficulties, but I so would like to see you faster. I very much appreciate your sensitive care of me, you the present gentleman it are very noble from your party, you which man I searched for all life. I want to be with you and only with you. I can not wait for a meeting with you to arrive to embrace you and a kiss. Today I have found out, how it is more convenient to you to send money to me. To me have told, that system Western Union the most convenient and fast system of remittances. Only it will be necessary for you to send money to my name and to it the address of bank: MENATEP ST.PETERSBURG. Russia, zip code: 248023. City Kaluga, street MARSHALA ZHUKOVA STREET 1. My full name: Tatyana Karpova. After you to send me money to you should give a special code (MTCN) which is necessary for informing me. Please, do not overlook to write to me this information, differently I can not receive money in bank.
 
Tatyana Kyzkina
(Irkustk, Russia)
I am a 34 year old man living in the Pacific NW. After placing an add on Yahoo, I was surprised to receive a letter from a Russian woman. She said her name was Tanya. Within a letter or two, it had become Tatyana. She explained this as a nickname. Soon, this scammer had the audacity to warn me of fraud on the internet! Well, eventually I fell for the scam and lost over 300 dollars because I let my emotions run away with me. Now that the money is gone and I have received no response, I have found nearly the identical letter requesting money in the name of Tatyana Shilova from Khabarovsk, Russia. My scammer was Tatyana (Tanya) Kyskina (or Kyzkina, depending on the letter), from Irkutsk, Russia. You can see by comparing the letters and times that 'she' was gone on a business trip at the same time! It appears that these scammers learn from their mistakes and improve their game. She mentioned her low income several weeks before hitting me up for the visa money. There are a number of other similarities: height, weight, income $120/ month, lives with mother, father absent, etc, and a number of similar phrases throughout the two sets of letters. Essentially the scam is run the same with the same parts, but a little more patience which suckered me quite well. Live and learn, I hope. Jay.
Letters:
This is the first letter received on yahoo.personals 04 September 2004
hi my friend, I have seen yours profile on yahoopersonale and have decided to write. My name is Tanya. To me of 26 years. I live in Russia. I want to find out you better. I the lonely woman also search for serious relations. If you lonely and too search for happiness that write to me on mine e-mail: tatttaa@iwoman.ru i wait yours letter. Tanya.
This is the third letter. notice the similar break and explanation to Tatyana Shilova (Khabarovsk, Russia). The birthday is even the same, except one year later.This letter received 08 October 04.
Hello my friend Jay, Excuse me, that long did not write to you.We in September had many accidents and acts of terrorism.In this connection I some weeks was on business trip and have arrived only today. Therefore I write you just now. At all I do not know from what to begin the letter. Mgggggg..., ok. Recently to me have advised to search for the man in Internet and I decided to try. To me spoke, that in your country of the man very decent, respect women and to drink alcohol a little. it is very good. I have gone to club of acquaintances and the beginnings to look profiles. I very much was surprised when have seen such plenty profiles men which search for the woman!!!Really in your country so many lonely men?!!! It is very sad.:-( So many men are lonely and have no happiness in private life.:-(( I have casually seen your modest and sincere structure. I have very much become interested in you and have decided to write to you. I did not think, that you to me write. You at all do not represent as me it was pleasant to receive your letter. Well, I to tell it is a little about itself. As you already have understood my name is Tatyana. Tanya, Tatyana, Tanusha, - it is all one and too a name. Tanusha - so mum names me. This diminutively caressing name of my name.:-) To me of 26 years. I was born April, 20, 1978. I live in Russia in suburb of city Irkutsk. For the information this city was created approximately 350 years back. I never was abroad and in your country earlier. In mine profile I have written residence USA because the base does not accept my Russian postal index. Why I do not know. I work the doctor the cardiologist 2 years. My education: I have finished 10 years of school, medical college and medical university. As you see I studied much. My work consists in revealing and treatment of diseases of heart. Also I give out the receipt on medicines. Doctors as you understand work necessary for a society. Therefore I give all myself to this work. Besides till 24 years I all studied as this speciality. Unfortunately it prevents my private life a little. To me 26 years and now I understand, that the family children and loving husband is necessary for me. My main vital principles it is honesty, kindness, decency under the attitude to all people, Tenderness and love and respect for loved to the man. I do not love lie and to not love false people. I do not respect arrogance in people. I think that the arrogance worsens to live to these people and environmental people. In people I respect honesty, compassion to poor people, love and respect for associates. Therefore I abuse myself if when that have thought of any person poorly. ok, that it is possible to tell about itself. My growth 5,5 and weight 130 lbs. I the blonde with brown eyes. I like to look comedies. Music I listen to anyone. But most of all I to love a jazz. For fun I to like to read books to play table tennis, to walk with girlfriends. MY FAVOURITE WRITER PUSHKIN. STILL I VERY MUCH TO LIKE MARK TVEN! I TO NOT DRINK And TO NOT SMOKE. Drugs even never saw. I studied the English language at school, but already almost all have forgotten.Therefore I shall use the program of the translator on a computer. And frequently I am terrified to translation quality of this computer program. I think, that sometimes I shall write itself and there will be probably Russian words. It because I and the computer program of the translator does not know all words in English. ok, my main hope and dream is a search loving men and creation with him families. Loving the man which will support me when I shall be need in support. Who - what understands me. But also and who - what only does not praise me when I operate a wrong way. For me the main thing that the man loved me, respected as the person and paid me attention. I do not ask, that he sat next me each minute. No. I want, that my beloved did not forget date of our acquaintance, Date of our wedding, birthday of my parents that was interested in my health and mood..... I want as a minimum of two children. I am sure, that I will have happiest family. I shall make all that my husband and I lived in harmony and mutual understanding. I would treat beloved when he will be ill. The grandmother has learned me to some cunnings of national medicine. I would sit with my loved each evening and shared the ideas and dreams. I want to work on the speciality and to help the husband to cope with difficulties of modern life. To give birth to children and to watch as they grow. To teach their life. To teach them be decent people to observe precepts of the god. Their messages to the best life. To bring up their true christians. Then to help to bring up their children (grandsons!!!) In old age to play with grandsons and to teach their life. When they will take offence at parents they will come running to us. We as the grandmother and the grandfather shall calm them!!! In the future in old age to sit and watch together the TV. To go together to walk when we shall be already old men, but the love will be same passionate as well as in youth!!! That I want from life. I sincerely hope, whether that our correspondence will show there can be we such pair. Certainly there will be many complexities on our way. It is possible, that we can remain only friends. Probably between us strong feeling of love and respect will appear. Yet I do not know. Life will show. I want to know all about you and about your life. As we live in the different countries at me there are questions: Are you ready to have the relation with a Women from Russia? As you concern to Russian to women. What relations we expect from our meeting in internet. Whether it is valid you are serious in intentions to find to itself the wife and it is not important in what country she lives? Or the woman living abroad is not of interest for you. Whether your dreams coincide with my dreams. Please to answer sincerely all my questions. Please if you are not serious in search of serious relations that Tell me it. I shall understand and to not take offence. And if you want that I shall be only your friend. I hope, that you understand my English. That I have much written that. I hope you to not get tired to read it.:-)) I very much wait your letter. Sincerely I hope that you appear the truthful and decent person. Yours friend Tatyana. p.s.I hope, that you will like my photo.
This is an excerpt from a letter received 07 November 04:
Hi my dear friend Jay! I am very glad to see your letter!!! I want to tell about myself little bit more. But any more I do not know what to speak.It seems you know about me more than any person on the ground. Yesterday difficult day on work was. Many operations on heart. It is very difficult work. Unfortunately this work is not paid for advantage, this my opinion In general in Russia, people earn scanty money, it is hardly enough of it for residing For example, I earn 120 dollars per one month.It not the big money for Russia. But this money suffices to live in Russia. I not magnificently live. Me suffices on products and on some things. I do not complain the life. But on this money it is impossible to visit to have a rest on the sea or in other country. (....) This is very similar to The seventh letter of 26 October in the Tatyana Shilova (Khabarovsk, Russia) case.
This, the eleventh letter is almost identical to the fourth letter in the Tatyana Shilova (Khabarovsk, Russia) file. Received 21 November 04.
Hello my dear Jay! I have received your letters and I understand that I am only begin to live. I not represent any more life without you, my Angel! I love you, and I am ready to repeat these words again and again! Please, to not think poorly of me, simply it overflow my feelings. I talked to mum about us with you and about our future and that probably I soon leave in other country. You do not think that I solve it spontaneously, I very long think of it. I do not want to miss the happiness again. I talked to mum and she is very happy for me, she even bless me. It can is silly sounds, but today I represented our meeting. I think out very many interesting pictures. In the street there is a fine weather and you stand and wait for me in the airport and worry for my arrival. Then you approach to the plane, we look around And we search eyes each other in crowd, then with to become transfixed hearts we find each other and to rush into strong embraces. We stand having embraced, and all look at us. And for us as though nothing exist.Only you and I!!! It was a great day when I received the first letter from you I thank the God and I know that I found you and I love you. I am pleased with an opportunity to meet you soon, and I want it very much I think you want it too, your letters was the ray of light in my life. At first I was not interested in moving to other country but I will do it because I found my love and it's YOU!!! We have firm in our city which makes the documents for people who want to leave the country. I asked about moving to your country and I got the answer that I need the visa, foreign passport and some other documents for registration. We have defined a type of the visa and it's type which allows to marry in the future but if it will be not realize I must return to my country after ninety days it's limit for visa. I asked about prices and was very surprised, first I ask about time of performance and they said that there is many people who wants to make documents and leave the country But if I'll make the application now, and pay for it now, they will make all documents not more than two weeks, and if I'll not make the application, documents will be prepared not earlier than two or three months because there are many people who wants to do it. I was very much surprised with the prices of services. It cost three hundreds and twenty nine american dollars. It's make me little suppressed and disappointed I don't have so much now. I was make application but I must pay for it. I asked my mother about our savings she said that the money should not be a barrier between two people which love each other. I counted my sum and I found out that I have only about fifty dollars and my wages will be not soon. I asked my friends about helping me and they said that have not at the present moment. I asked the advice my mother and she said that maybe you can help me because you loves me. I know now, that exists reliable and fast company which makes remittances in world and it's western union. I remember that I saw advertising this company on tv. I take a directory book and found the address of it and it's not far from me. I went there and I asked them about service. They said that sender must go to the western union, give them information: the name and last name of receiver, country they make transfer and bring the ten digits secret code to sender. The receiver must know ten digits for receiving money. they say that the branches of it must be everywhere worldwide. Here is the information: Country: Russia. City: Irkutsk. Name: Tatyana. Lastname: Kyzkina. Address of branch of western union: Agent Name: ALFA BANK. Address: 38 GAGARINA BLVD. Irkutsk, 684000. I must know your full name, full address. You must know that I decide to ask you about it because I love you and trust you very much. I decide to come to you because I feel this way and you are very necessary to me, I decided to come to the unfamiliar country and I never be outside my country. But I decided to do it because now you are part of my life and I trust you in all. I think you trust me too and love me too. You must inform me the closest airport to you I'll ask the help with ticket from my relatives. Please don't forget to tell me the closest airport. My love I need 329 dollars I think you will help me because we found our love and we want to meet closer. You must inform me ten digits and I can receive it. You must know we must hurry because I can receive the documents soon and if we lost the time it is necessary for a long time. Now it's very difficultly to receive the visa to your country, and it's fact, but if I pay now I think I do it. I think about sense of money, and I'm very sad if this paper can prevent people to meet each other. In most cases the money play a main role in life but it's not right! I'm sure. And the quantity of money was and will not important to me I always not aspired to material enrichment and don't search specially for rich male. I appreciate human qualities and relations and I love you Jay!!!I love you all my heart, I want to be with you now... I want to be with you forever. If it's mutually we will be very happy in our life. I think you love me too and we will meet very soon. You are my love, my Angel. My heart is yours. I'm waiting good news from you, I hope everything will be all right and we will be together soon. Every day I think about our meeting, and I think it's real, we must use this chance of destiny. I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!! xoxoxoxoxoxoxo Yours Tatyana. p.s. I send you a photos of my work.
   
Yulia
AKA Anya Petrova(Yeravan, Armenia)
I am a white American, 37 years old, self employed. She (or whoever this really is) contacted me through Yahoo Personals. She used the email address yuuleshok@yandex.ru. She only wrote to me for about three weeks and then wanted to meet with me. Some questions that I asked her were not answered and some were. She is very persuasive. Says that she lives with her Grandfather. She sent two new pictures every time she wrote. Used the very same letters that I have seen elsware on the Black List under the name Yulia and also Anya Petrova. Some of the pictures I was sent are the same as others got and some pictures are a completely different girl. She claimed to have saved $1160 with her Grandfather but needed $1850 to get a "Visa" and cover "airfare" through a government exchange program at an "agency". So she asked for $690. She said that the Visa was guaranteed 100% through this program. She also said there was a deadline (only one week after her email) to apply for this program and that if she missed the deadline it would be another year before she could apply again. At this point I became even more suspicious than I was before and fortunately I found the Black List that proved my suspicions were true. At least I didn't lose any money. I hope this letter helps keep others from being scammed. Some of her letters are below.
Letters:
On 10/29/2004 04:19 pm EDT, "Personals Member" wrote:
Hello:) my name is Yulia. I register in this internet place look your description and deside to write you, I think you are nice man and may be our aquaintance will be interesting... Please sorry for my not so good English. So how I am in this site, I was born in Moscow, Russia, study there, and my parents there, now I live in Armenia here in my grandfathers home Armenia is former Soviet Union country near Russia... I deside find my love, and person who will be my future husband and friend of heart,life partner and true loven its not easy find that man in here because most of not family oriented... I can use internet in cafe near our home here:) little about me I am 23 years old my height 170cm, weight 50kg. My specialization is Teacher of Russian language and literature, I like reading very much,cooking,go to pikniks,play piano and many other things, more about me I will tell you later if you write me... The reason that I write you now that I want find person who can be near me all life who can be good lifepartner, and who realy serious oriented, the seriousnes,tendernes,kindness, and inner beauty of man first important for me. I deside look man of my life in USA because in Russia very hard to find serious family oriented man... please if you answer write me little about you, your life, your ideals... I write you my direct email address where you can write me is: yuuleshok@yandex.ru I will try to check my e-mail often if you write I write you more and send you more of my pics... I will try come internet cafe as often as I can... So I think this is enough for first mail, again sorry for my english I have no practice its all knowlege which I get in school I will wait your letter yours Yulia.
11-03-04
Hello dear:) I am very glad to get your letter I wait it. Please sorry for my late reply as I had problems with internet,but now everything is ok:)I think our aquaintance will be very nice:) so dear David I will try tell you now all about my life in details. I was born in 18 Dec 1980, and I grew up in good family my mother was teacher of Russian language in school, my father engeener in factory and my father love his job very much they construct tv sets etc in factory, but now my father work in private firm as special engeener but not earn much because in Russia now not the best economical situation, but they can live with my mother ok, my mother not work at school already few years, my mother very nice person and she take care of me all life as a best mom:) As my mother was teacher she teach me Russian language well and I even had practice as teacher few times in school when i was 20:) it was funny, my mother also very good cooker, as me too I hope:) she teach me very different dishes prepare:) Dear David I dont know do you ever eat Russian dishes? My favorit dishes Russian is: Pelmeni, Golubci,Borsch, etc... I like very much too cook also and I like home food, I dont like eat always somthing in restaurant or somewhere I prefer if its possible eat much at home, I like to eat Pizza with mushrooms and hum and cheese i can prepare it also, and i like BBQ, and fried chicken and potatoes, also I like sandwiches and many another dishes, but I dont eat much I like prepare different things and eat a little from every one:) So dear David I grew up in good family there the most important goals was trust, love, nice relations and harmony, be near each other in any situation, I think I had nice childhood because I have nice parents which show me good way in life and be for me all what I can see and be also right in life... So I finished a school in Moscow ,and after I begin take a private lessons for exams for universyty which I want enter... Moscow is very nice city because its the city where live very many good persons cultural, smart and interesting, I mean teachers all my teachers in school and in university was veryy smart and realy good teachers... So after all my hard lessons and the one year private lessons I take exams good and enter in Moscow state university in Pedagogical(teachers) faculty:) It was so good year for me its like a dream that I enter to University and I get this specialization, I enter all exams high and my education was free its about 20% of studens who pass very good exams can get free education in univercity... I was very glad my parents too, and I choose this specialization because I like children and it will be interesting for me to teach them, so I finish university after 5 years of education and get diploma, this day also was very important for me, because it was very difficult study in university, I have no time for walking, I have no time watch tv and read books, all what I do all time it study and read my student books etc, so I even have no friends during this time, I lose my schoolfriends because during my university I have no time communicate with them... So after university I work about some time in school and i liked that school, but I cant work much there because there a director changed and come new director which was not good person, I leave this place and I never work after this... So I deside come here to Armenia and stay here in my grandfathers home, because my father in Russia last time drink much and I dont like he drunked, I love him much but my mother said better I stay with my grandfather and I come here, my grandpa very good person and was glad I stay with him here I am here in Armenia about few months. I use internet here in cafe very near of our home its like first floor of our building, its good I can reach it easy:) My dear David I hope I dont bore you with my letter, but I think you be glad to know all about me as I want know all about you we are going may be make the most important step in our life and its very important know more about each other... I like reading very much, I think it comes from my mother in childhood when I was little and I cant read I was about 4 or 5 years my mother always read for me different things:) I like read very much Russian classics for example: Lev Tolstoy, Dostoyevski, etc... Also I like very much books from my childhood my favorit writers was, Jul Vern, A Konan Doil, Romen Rolan,Teodor Drizer, A Duma, etc:) you know few days ago here was problem with electricity cable and I sit under candle light in evening dont know what to do, I see book of Konan Doil, stories about Sherlock Holmes, I read it in my childhood and in my mind I think that now if I read it it may be seem primitive for me, but I begin to read and cant stop:) it was so nice:) I read Harry Potter not so time ago I like it to:) Tell me what you like to read? I like music very much, I like latin music, pop music and dancing music I like to dance sometimes:) I also went musical school during my regular school, and I play piano not bad, but to tell truth I dont play already long time here my grandpa have no piano, my favorit is moonlight sonata by Beethoween, I like it much and I play it much few years ago:) I like very much go out of city for picnics or somthig same:) I like prepare different tasty things in nature and eat I think everything is more tasty in nature, I like go walking in parks and traveling sometimes...but never been outside of Russia:( I can use internet very little time I come and see how to use it and study but I still dont know very much things and I type not very fast but not slowly, you know I think its help me that I play piano I easy remembet all keys in keyboard:) and to tell you truth I never in my life write so long letter as now, its first time I write so long:) I deside to get aquaintance with foreign man and start serious relations because I never feel seriousness in men which I know also here in Armenia, I am here have no friends and dont know no one and i go walk even with my grandfather, but in Russia for example when I study in institute I dont feel from men in our faculty that they are ready for have serious relations, start family, be sincere in relations all time and ready in any situation be together... For me very important that my future husband be sincere and good heath person, who can love only me and whom I can love all life only him, and live in harmony have children one day and be happy, enjoy every moment together... I like man who think that family is most important thing in life... And I like if man come after work home and we can sit talk a little interesting, wach tv, have supper, or sometimes go walks in evenings:) sometimes I am very romantic I think:) So in this time I look man who can be my husband, my friend and all for me, now its the thing I look because I am tired be alone and i need someone near me... I write you so much because I feel that our aquaintance and relations have potencial and can be nice... Ok dear David I will finish now my long letter and I will try come internet tommorrow for write you, think of you yours Yulia.
11-19-04
hello my sweetest friend,my David! how are you my dear?do you miss me as much as i do?:) you know some days ago i even can't imagine that in my life will appear someone who i can be devoted so much.. i wake up in the morning and my main goal of day is to come internet just check if you wrote or not and write you a reply..when i am at home i am sad but once i think of you everything become so bright..i need you in my life...why life is not easy and we didn't born in the same town.. sweetheart today i read in newspepar that here is cultural exchange working program for emprove english language knowlege in USA which can help us for meeting and i can get US visa without problem:).. This programm valid every year and this year's registration deadline is 28 of November... Tell me your opinion, and if you ready for meeting and you can help me organize our meeting i can ask my grandfather ask all details about programm... I think real meeting can show us all and i am sure all will be nice between us.. Tell me may be you prefer visit me here in Armenia and after we go there together?
11-20-04
hello my sweet cutie David:) how are you my love? today here so gloomy weather and it is close to raining..I like this weather but when i am at home and just look from the window and see how rain fall the ground:)do you like the smell after rain?it is so fresh right?:) sweetheart today my grandpa was in that agency which prepair visa and ask for details..so this is government program for exchange which gurantee get visa 100% without problem,it is once in a year and if i can't apply till deadline i need to wait 1 year for apply it.. I can come direct to you as soon as I get visa, this visa valid in your country 6 month and after it may be continue,I have saved money and my grandpa can give me which I can use for comming to you, but its not enough sum, the full programm including ticket,visa, travel charges, taxes and programm all together cost 1850 US dollars, I have my only 1160 dollars all together with my grandfather's savings... Tell me your opinion? , agency prepare visa during 25 days max time... So I need 690 dollars for have complete sum for comming to you... Are you able help me arrange this way comming to you? this is only way I can get visa... sweet i never afraid to work with plans and gardening just for break my nail..:)i like nature:) My man tell me which way is better for meeting so I will do in that way because you really dear to me so much... for me meet you is like a dream and start relations in real it wil be so wonderfull.. i want so much just look at your eyes and tell you everything which i wanted but couldn't because of distance..to tell you nearly all about me..my dreams and how my life was so empty without you... you change all my inside world.. ok my man i will wait your soon reply..know that you are always in my heart and mind..love
you. Yulia.
   
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