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Last night I wanted to do a search of her town when I came across your site. I was sad to see her name on your black list until I read the letter she sent another man. Its the exact same letter. Which I will copy it to this, the photos also match which i have attached. I want to thank this site for being available, you saved me heart ache, and money I am sure. 

Mike


I stumbled across this site and with the gut feeling that something wasn't right with this woman i searched for her. And to no surprise I found her listed on a couple of sites. The first site that I found her listed on was this one, [ http://www.womenrussi
a.com/blackpage358.ht
m#Skibenok ] had a few of the same pictures that she sent to me. Also the letter that was posted was almost identical to one of mine. I've also found other listings of letters that are also very identical. 

Joe

 


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Natalia Skibenok (Ilek, russia)

I am a 41 year old male, I run my own business, and have tried the internet for dating since i do not have alot of time. I had my profile on Yahoo personals when Natalia responded. I received a message from this women about 2 weeks ago. She seemed interested in me in an instant. We have emailed each other, and things seemed to be going well. She did want to write me a letter and had sent her complete address, that is when i received her last name. Last night I wanted to do a search of her town when I came across your site. I was sad to see her name on your black list until I read the letter she sent another man. Its the exact same letter. Which I will copy it to this, the photos also match which i have attached. Here is her last letter to me, which i feel is very important since it matches the other letter she wrote to another that is listed on your site. It just shows she is not only scamming, but is lazy since she cant write an original letter. I want to thank this site for being avaiable, you saved me heart ache, and money I am sure.

Letters:

My dear Mike! Today I just can't wait to read your mail! Its seems it become mean for me more and more! So, how are you today? I am really surprised how Internet helps us to get close! Now I so thanks to my girlfrind and I am so sad that I did not know you early! I become so attached to your letters! Today I did not work. That's why my aunt and I make general cleaning of house. We do it every three-month and it takes whole day. I like to make cleaning with aunt. She is very hardworking woman and to clean house with her is very chearful. We always like to be in company of each other. We spoke a lot and I told her about our relations. I said her that I did not believe it early and I am so happy to see that it works now! She was very surprised and wishes us luck and she hopes that our relations will grow up in future in more seriouse. Also we do small cleaning every week by Saturdays. Today we wash windows, walls, floors, and cleaned carpets. It was really easy for me to do it thinking about you. Today we decided to change a carpet in a bedroom, so we needed to change pinth. When we broke old, we finded od wooden board. The house of my aunt is very old, so there are a lot of such boards. Under this board I founded old coin. I was really curiouse what does it mean and my aunt advise me to go to specialist. He told me that its very valueable coin which is dated 1704, its 1 ruble. I was really happy to know it. It has great quality. He told me that it may costs from 400 till 700 dollars USA. And they said that it can cost more at some other countries. I decided to save it for future. I hope that sometime this coin will help me. My dear Mike, its a little confuse me, but I would like to share my dream with you. Today night I saw that we sat together at a coast of a big lake. I have not seen this lake early, but it was so beautiful and quiet, and barrels an easy warm breeze. We looked at night sky and we see nice moon and a lots of stars which was reflected in a mirrow of water. It was so good and I feeled your strong arms on my shoulders. We spoke about us and about our feelings to each other. I imagined that we had to tell each other something important, that will change all our future. But at this moment I waked up but I had impression from this dream for a long time. It was so real, that when I understood that it's only a dream, I was very sad. I have never feeled such feelings. And I believe that someday this dream become true! My dear Mike, I often think about you and about our relations. It seems to me that every day we become closer. We know more about each other and I like all that you wrote me. So, I will go home now to think about this all. I hope I did not confused you with my dream. What do you think about this all? Hug you, my dear Mike,
P.S. I am thinking about writing post mail from you. I have not wrote it to someone, so I dont sure what I have to write at envelope. Please write me and let me know. So, my post adress is: 461350 Russia, City: Ilek, Street: Lenina, House: 7. Natalia Skibenok.


Natalia Skibenok2 (Tavda, Russia)

Hi; I was contacted by this woman on a local personals site. Osprey Personals. ( The site has been notified; But I have yet to receive a response from them. ) At first she seemed normal and sincerally nice. In a matter of 13 letters she has fallen in love and needs my financial help in order for us to be together. She has requested monies for a visa and airfare. I stumbled across this site and with the gut feeling that something wasn't right with this woman i searched for her. And to no surprise I found her listed on a couple of sites. The first site that I found her listed on was this one, [http://www.womenrussia.com/blackpage358.htm#Skibenok] had a few of the same pictures that she sent to me. Also the letter that was posted was almost identical to one of mine. I've also found other listings of letters that are also very identical. I did not fall for her send money so we can be together scam. I did however string her along. I sent her to the bank across the city from the one she requested. I managed to inconvience her for a few trips. Here is the info I have for her, and a few letters. Natalia Skibenok, email - cutegirl33@pisem.net, Address 623950 Russia, City: Tavda, Street: Budaragina, House: 11. alternate address found is 461350 Russia, City: Ilek, Street: Lenina, House: 7. I hope this helps to prevent this person from scamming someone. Joe

Letters:

LETTER # 3
Hi Joe! Thank you for your letter. Can you write me more about your work? What is most intresting in it? How do you spend your free time? I was born at Tavda town. My dad from Krasnoyarsk Whe he Went in bussines trip in Tyumen , met mother. He has bought big house on out of city i love tis house. I have no brothers and sisters.But i have cousines. Now I am working as economist - adviser of pharmaceutical company of our city. This is firm that sells materials for pharmaceutic. My duties are to get deal (contracts) to clients, to tell them all about finance side of this deal.. I cant say that I like my work very much, but my heads very proud for me and no best work now. My work is not very far from me, and I always go there by myself.I have no drive licence. And have no car. And how long from your home your work is situated? And some words about my town. My town is not very big. But our town is enough green and nice. Its situated near Irtish and tavda river so we have lots of fishmen. My dad fishman too. I promised to tell you about how I get idea to start to write you. First I have have found out that now biggest city of Russia has Bride agency where is possible get merried on foreigner.I knew about this but had no idea how it will work with me because I far from this city .I have no luck with russians men. And i thought that it will be hard find some one. But the example was necessary for me The reason is I met one of my old girlfriends, which was my classmate in University. We spoke a lot and she was very happy and told me her story. One day she with our girlfriends comes to Internet in Tyumen just for kidding. They find out about one of Internet dating cites of russia especial for women. But for registration on this site she should pay almost 100 us dollar. She no like this Idea. Later she find foreign dating sites. My girlfriend (Tamara) wrote only one not serious letter to a man from United States, I not sure maybe he was from florida I'm no remember.I think so because as she said many thing about hockey team Florida panters. . She did not wait something seriouse. Then she began to go every day and write him. She did not told much her girlfriend about this. And after one month of communicating she told them that she will go to USA soon and that she love that man. She went to USA for two month and when she returned she were happiest woman of the world.I met her in this moment. I did not see her such happy before! It was no crazi feeling about only man or best life of America. It was true happiness. I was really shocked. It looked like a fairy tale. I was speaking a lots with her and I was so surprised to knew that would like to marry and to come to USA for all her life. I asked her why she did not choose Russian man.And we have discussion about men. She told me that America have bad people too. But American men are better then Russian and that does not drink a lots. They more gentle, culture, and kind. They more oriented to a family then Russian. She said, that she had no any problems with living there and she will not share her Michael with someone else. He is 55 years old, and Tamara (she is 30 now)is very happy with him. She said that difference in ages is just a little problem. She has advised me to just try find American man.But I think Canadian man even better. I like Canada most then USA. But what is country no mean if you love someone I thought more then one year and only now I know, that I am ready to fallow her advise. I am so sad now that I have no connction with her now; Unfortunately, I have never been outside Russia, but maybe I hope someday it will be. But I so happy that I meet you and I hope to know more about you.I'm Sorry, I need to go now. Hope to hear from you soon, Natalia.

LETTER # 6
My dear Joe! Today I had very nice day.And now i have fine evening. And I can't wait to read your mail! Its seems it become mean for me more and more! How are you today? Now I so thanks to my girlfrind and I am so sad that I did not know you early! I become so attached to your letters! Today spend no many time on my work That's my mom and I made general cleaning of house.It is old house of grandfather of mom. It was the one of first house of stone in this town We do it every three-month and it takes whole day.Also we do small cleaning every week by Saturdays. I like to make cleaning with mom. We always to be not only mother and daughter, also we good friend. We spoke a lot and I told her about you and our relations. I said her that I did not believe it early and I am so happy to see that it works now! She was very surprised and wishes us luck and she hopes that our relations will grow up in future . Today we wash windows, walls, floors, and cleaned carpets. It was really easy for me to do it thinking about you. The house of my mom is very old and have some stories about my ancestors. My mom told me story how her grandfather met her grandnother. Grand father present like gift of wedding very beautiful thing is Gold Necklace with Pearl. Today I find it in casket in basement. Mom cannot find it almost ten years. And thought that lose . She present me this Necklace and promise me that this thing give luck some day. I need said you one strange thing what happend with me. Today i saw dream, It was: I sat together with man.I'm not sure but seems it was you. we was on coast of a river.It was no big river and I have not seen this place early It was so beautiful and quiet, and barrels an easy warm breeze. We just a talked about how it is great that we find each other. I imagined that we had to tell each other something important, that will change all our future. But at this moment I waked up but I had impression from this dream for a long time. It was so real, that when I understood that it's only a dream, I was very sad. I have never feeled such feelings.Maybe someone will think that it is stupid But i no think so. My mom told me that it happend because You in my mind.I hope to see you in my next dream so I may be will know what wait us in future. And maybe someday this dream become true!I know it is look like fable. In last time I no think that I'm lonely. I am thinking about writing post mail from you. Please write me and let me know your post mail address. So here my post adress is: 623950 Russia, City: Tavda, Street: Budaragina, House: 11, Natalia Skibenok. My dear Joe, I often think about you and about our relations. It seems to me that every day we become closer. We know more about each other and I like all that you wrote me. So, I will go home now to think about this all. I hope I did not confused you with my dream. What do you think about this all? Hug you, your Natalia.

LETTER # 12
My dear love Joe!! I am so happy to get your letter and I am so happy that we becoming closer to each other. All night I thinking about you and about us, I turned on few times the light to read and reread your letters. Its very great that people can meet each other throught Internet and write letters to each other just every day which can let them know more about each other, to make fellings and empathies. I am so gald to meet you in my life and I am planning to meet you in person. I am very serious in my choice. I dont think that longterm correspondence will help us as much as personal meeting. I dont like to speak about financial, it does not good in Russia, I dont brought up such, and my parents teach me to consult with it only by myself, and if I ask someone about something, it mean that I thought a lot about wheather to do it or not. So I thought a lot about is this good or not to ask you about help, but I hope for your understanding because I do it only for both of us and for our happyness. My dear, during the time of our communicating, I understood that we have feeling to each other that I can call LOVE. Such feelings between people become not only from nothing and from lots of thought, analyses of relations, understanding and mutual help. With every day I am becoming surer in my choise and in you. And I sure those if I do some mistake you will understand me and forgive me and I can say it about myself too. Looking for our relations I understood that only destiny of my heart is to meet you in person. And I believe in mutual feelings. I was at cash of airport department today asking about cost of the tickets. I dont think that tickets can cost so much! I dont sure in choice of date, but I asked about cheapest tickets that exists. Its costs about 900 US dollars. So, here is information about ticket: it is costs:$915.40
Depart from Tyumen (TJM)6:55 am Sunday, April 10.
Arrive to Toronto (YYZ) 6:00 pm Sunday April10.
Airlines Airflot Russian. Unfortunately for that moment its really big money for me. As you know, I saved up some money, its about 340 dollars for the ticket and all money for the visa. So I need about 660 dollars more. Its really hard for me to find now such money bymyself, it will take about half of year more. Will you help me with it? What do you think about a date of our meeting? Which is the best? The easiest for me is to take vacation in next month. Please write me your opinion. I dont know a lots about how to send money but I will ask it from my cousin, she sent money few times for my aunt from another countries. I am waiting your responce with impatience and I hope for soon meeting. I am sure that meeting in person will be better then thouthands of letters. But it big money and if you cannot help that I can understand you . It my mistacke. Everything is Allright. Yours, Natalia.

LETTER # 13
Joe, must to get vocation soon it is two moth. Packeg is ticket + visa= trvel How soon you will able to send money that after this will need about 20 days to make all paper works and get visa, i will able stay about 3 month , If you cannot help with money then i cannot come to you whole next year.i will need get new contract on my work cause of no lose my work. I have no spend much time with friends now cause of all my bestfrieds now far from me. Work all almost every day, Yes i like ice cream i like vanila with nuts and chocolate. Soon holidays but i no feel happy yourself as i feeled when dream about our meeting in first time , but money is real problem broke my dream and i'm on earth now, miss you much, Natalia

LETTER # 14
My sweetheart Joe!! I just so happy to have such great frieand and soulmate as you! Every night I thinking about you, sometimes I can't sleep thinking of you! You can't imagine, how much do you mean for me! You become so close man for me! I need 660 us dollars it is big money,My Joe,. But i can get littel money in nearest day but it will be 30 dollars only, that mean that i need 630 dollars. Today I talked with my cousin about us more and she is so happy for us! I ask her about transferring money, she said that the best way is to use western union system and she said, that everybody in America know how does it works. I did not hear about this system of money transferring and I just searched Internet for this to read something about it. And i found this site, where anybody can get nearest bank, which included to western union system. Here it is: www.westernunion.com . You can visit it and look how does it works. Closest bank to road service station is: GAZPROMBANK, Street: VOROVSKOGO, 2. City :TYUMEN, zip: 393044, 7 -345- 393044. Then I went in bank and the clerk has told to me is necessary to use control number in transfer of money (MTCN) . You will receive this number at bank and you have to give it to me. I need this code, your name, your adress and your zip code to get money. The clerk has told that without MTCN it is practically impossible to receive money. Its seems all information that you need to send me money is my name and my surname. You know my name, it is Natalia and my sirname is Skibenok. Please let me know is this information enough for you? Please let me know. I kiss you and hug you, my love! Forever yours, Natalia 

LETTER # 20
My dearJoe!! I went to bank and there to me have told that there is no translation from you.Please explain to me that occurs, you have joked over me? I was very strongly dishonoured in bank and looked as the fool it have very strongly humiliated me as such can be! If you love me I confident that all will be well and we at last that carry out our dream and we shall meet personally. I do not know what to think. I believe you and I love you and I would want that all was good at us. Please understand with bank it is very insulting for me, I could not believe that such probably, they have checked up everything, but translation is not present Please explain me what is going on, I spend two day for traling, I'm tired i have spend many money on bus, what is wrong??????????? I wait for your answer. Strong whole and hugs. With all my love Yours Natalia.


Natalya (Kazan_Russia)

Dear Elena, I'm a single Canadian male, 46 years old. A little over a month ago, I received an e-mail from "Natalya", who had apparently found my profile on a North American dating website. This guy (I'm assuming it's a guy, of course) is a little more sophisticated than a lot of scammers. For one thing, he's patient. He's sent me about 10 e-mails or so over the past several weeks, and "Natalya" has yet to request any money. He's also been careful not to have Natalya fall in love with me too quickly. Furthermore, he's constructed his e-mails in such a way that it appears on first reading that "Natalya" is actually responding to things I've written in mine; however, a more careful reading reveals that these "responses" are merely pre-packaged, generalized comments that don't make any detailed mention of anything I've written. He's also made sure not to go overboard with the photos he's sent. Rather than choosing professionally shot pics of drop-dead-gorgeous models, he's chosen very homey-looking snapshots of an admittedly pretty but otherwise ordinary woman; he's even included one where she's seen with her mother, apparently. Despite all these precautions, however, the usual scam elements are there--the casual reference to how little money "Natalya" makes; her ailing mother; the fact that Russia is a very scary place for a foreigner such as myself to visit; her volunteering the information that she's a virgin, etc., etc. This guy is careful, too. As soon as I started pressing "Natalya" for more information about herself--a last name, where she saw my profile, etc.--she vanished. I haven't heard from "her" since. I'm enclosing some of the letters "Natalya" has sent, just to give you an idea of how things have progressed. I've also enclosed a few photos. Beware, gentlemen--this guy's a little more clever than your average scammer.
P.S. The e-mail address he used was "solncemoyo@yandex.ru".

Letters:

Hello, I was very glad to get your letter!!! I liked your profile and I would like to get answer from you! I decided to try to search my happiness in another country, because I can read and write on English. And because i am sure that people in internet don't waste their time for game. I disappointed in Russian man, because they need love just for one night. And i am sure that you are, like much another men search women not for just sex, but looking for something more.... I heard about internet, that it is crazy place and there are much people and hearts who wants to meet each other. I have never made the acquaintance with someone with help of Internet earlier. Because i use internet not much time, just some hours in a day. When i am at work. Well, i want to tell you a little about myself. My name is Natalya. I am 25 years old. I was born In February, 27 I have brown eyes and dark hair. I do not drink and I do not smoke, but I don't mind if people have this habbits. My style of life is very healthy. I love life. I would like to tell you about my character...Well, i think i am emotional and some people are scared of that. You know, when i feel fine, everybody knows about that, also when i am not very well, they know it too. But i don`t consider it as a bad quality, because people always know what i feel and i am not able to dissemble. Moreover, i can control my emotions when it`s necessary. But we all realize people are not ideal, so everyone has their own defaults. What about you? Tell me about your bad qualities,if you have such...;0)! You know, i am very sociable, so yes, i have a lot of friends, but only a few of them are really close. Moreover i have my best friend, who is the only person, knows about me everything, whom i really can trust and believe. I don`t like people, who is not able to keep their promises, who is selfish and do only what they want to do, not listening to others. I do belive in God, but i don`t go a church every week. I am religious inside, but sometimes i feel a strong need to pray, so i visit the temple. I live in Russia, my town called Kazan. This is the capital of Tatarstan Republic, but i will tell you about it in my next letters. Dont worry, i wont forget about it... I want to explain to you the reason why I have written in my profile that I live in USA, New York. I did not want anybody to deceive... In any case, I necessarily would write in the letter that I live in Russia. I tried to be registered on this site from Russia... But unfortunately I could not... Then I was helped by my friend from the USA... He has helped me to be registered on this site... Thus now I can communicate with you... As you see, I simply want to try to find right the man... I had not been marry and i dont have any kids. I have never visited another countries. I like English language i think that it is very good when someone know another language, for example Lenin knew 8 languagies. Great... I am sure that English it is international language, because many countries speaks english and only one country speaks Russian.. I have studied English at school and university. Certainly my English is not good. I hope that you will understand me very well. I`d like to find not only penfriends. I want to find a person who will be interesting in me, whom I will know and who will know me at the same time. I scanned some of my photos and i will send it to you and i hope that you will send me your photos too... I want to build serious relation and i am sure that our photos will helps us. First of all, it will helps you, because our russian proverb says: Women like her ears but men his eyes. I think that the most important qualities that must be in people are trust and honesty. I want to know more about you, because I have found a little information about you on your profile. I will be waiting for your answer.... Bye. Bye. Natalya.

Hi Don. I am happy to see the new letter from you. I want to tell you more about myself; also I would like to tell you about my family. For my unhappiness I lost my father 5 years ago. He had a lung cancer because of frequent smoking. My mather still alive but after death of my father, she was so bad and she had heart attack. And our doctors told her that she must live in village, because there is free air and there is no city noise . It was very difficult time for me to overcome father, i loved him so much, but my friends told me that i must be strong, he watch what i do. I need him so much, his care, his kind advices and his love. I think that it is necessarily to have some support in the life! Certainly it is important to be strong and try to overcome all difficulties yourself but sometimes it so uneasily... to do it without somebody's help and support. And that is why I appreciate people who are always with me, who help me to live! Ok, lets back to my mom...... My mother`s name is Elena , she is 46 years old. She is Russian pensioner. She have an attractive appearance and a very good sence of humor. By the way, here is her picture with me... I made it for you, i told her that i want to make her picture with me and with some paper in our hands. She help me and now you see it... I hope that you will like her... She is very good woman, every days i thinking of her and i wish her good health, i ask our God to help her. When i have time i visit her, we sit near each other and talk, talk about all... I like when she tell me when she was young or how she meet my father. I like it most of all, it is very good when kids speak with their parents, i don't understand when kids don't want to visit their parents... It is very bad... Don, I think that my mother the best mother in the world. She is my ideal....... I have no brothers and sisters. And i live alone in the flat. I have much time for watching tv and reading book or going to the cinema. I like it, i like good movies, but i will tell you about it in my next letter. Because it is another topic for discussion. I hope that you will write me about your parents. It will very interesting for me to know about your family. Let's help to know each other better and i am sure that my letters will help you to know me.... Don't worry i have much topic for conversation and all of them will interesting for you... I promise.... Have a nice day. Natalya.

Don, hello. How was your day? I hope all was good. Thank you for your letter and Thank you for all what you wrote me about your preferences. Step by step we know about each other more and more and more. I like it, i want that in each our letter we tried to tell something new and something what will be intersting for us. This is good, we write each other and we answer each other. I make it with great pleasure, i want that you know all about it me, i will help you in it. But i cann't write you long letters, because i use internet during my work time and i don't have much time for it. I have no computer at home. I would use the Internet of cafe for writing you. But it is too expensive for me It is necessary for me to pay each time when I receive or I accept from you the letter of 90 roubles, It is 3 $. But if I send the photo to you i need to pay for this service 4 $. In Russia only some people have computer at apartment and may use internet at home. Most people use Internet cafe. In Internet cafe use computer with internet for connecting with people and learned some information. Where are you use computer and internet? In our city many people have not phone at home, I also have no phone at my home. I want to have conversation with you. Of course you can think, wow she know me few days and she begin talking about money.... Incredibly... Please don't think wrong... I just want to explain you Don, why i cann't write you long letters at work and i hope that i did it and you understand me..... Well, what about my job... Mmm... First of all, i finished university, like a teacher Preschool classes or teacher The beginnings of Russian language and the literature, i receive very good diploma and i started work like a teacher. Yes, i am a teacher. I think it is a very interesting, difficult and noble profession. Every day I go to the centre to give lessons of Russian to little children. Sometimes it is very difficult to work with them because they can be noisy, inattentive. The other day children don`t want to work and I understand that everything depends on their mood. I am proud when they are successful in something and I try to help them in any case. Several times a week I have individual classes with pupils or grown-ups. Sometimes I am very tired and cann't do anything about the house. But I like my job and can`t give it up. I like kids, i like all my pupils like my kids... It is very interesting to teach, first time they cann't understand you and they need your helps. But after some month they can all and all what i need it is make their lesson most interesting, find another interesting game for teaching... This is very interesting jobs... But of course i have some difficulties when my pupil can do something... And i must stay after job and work with him in individual. But there is not much such pupils in my classies. What about my collaborators, all of them are girls. Our teaching staff is not big. All of them like this work very much. And we give all our strength and knowledge to the children. We proud our job, because we bear knowledge in heads of children and we expand their outlook Very often we gather together and go somewhere for example to the restaurant or for a picnic. We all are young that is why we easily come in contact with each other. I can tell you a lot of funny stories which sometimes happen at my work. For example there is a young woman who looks a little girl. And very often parents of our children ask her to call a teacher when she tries to explain them something. And the parents are always very surprised when they have learned that she herself is a teacher. Well, it is all what i can tell you about my work. What do you do? What is your job? Do you work for yourself or you work in factory or something else.... Please Don, tell me about place where are you work.... By the way, if you want to know how much money my sallary.... Only 120 usd per month... And my work time 8 hour a day and 6 day in a week... Best wishes. Natalya..... 

I like it. Each your letter, Don, makes me a little closer to you... Incredibly, i know much things about you. I know your name, i know where are you live, later you wrote me what do you like and what dislike, we spoke about your family and friends. And now i know what do you prefer to eat. I like it, each your letter opened me your internal world. I am happy. I want that i will be open book before you. I want to tell you some important things. About man of my dream and about the most important in people. At first, I have no any doubts about the age. It makes no difference to me. I think that the age is an nonexistent parametre. The main thing is to be young inside, in your soul. i thiink that for the loving people there is no any difference in the age. . Secondly, I would like very much that our preferences in food, music, books, films and TV programmes will be alike. I also think that one of the main qualities of the person is a skill to concede. But you should understand me right I don`t mean that a man is to concede constantly. No, the woman should concede either. And I am ready to concede and you Don? Than I don`t like when the men tell us how much money they spend for the woman. For example: "Oh, Darling, Your clothes is so expensive..." It is not very pleasant for every woman. But some girls deserve it because they are sitting at home, do nothing and live only with the help of their husbands. You should understand that In Russia both the wife and the husband work because the family is not only husband but a wife too. And she also can earn money for the family. I am not afraid to work that is I would like my future husband to be not against of it. Then I don`t like when the men smoke in the bed. It is awful. There are a lot of other places to smoke. Then I want very much to find in the man the respect, understanding and love.And I think the worth thing is the treachery. I hope very much that such thing will never happen in my life. I hope that my husband will not betray me and he will never have another woman. I think it was not very pleasant for men to know that their women have the lovers. Another thing is how a man can take care of himself. Man`s clothes and shoes can tell a lot about the person. As for me I hate dirty shoes and clothes. They have no taste. And they can come to the restaurant in some sport clothes. Then a good sence of humour. Such people are very interesting to talk to. They are not boring at all. They can find the way out of any situation. Then I want my husband, i mean, my future husband don't ask me much in the bed for the first time because I am a virgin. Yes, it is true and i think that it is the most important thing in girl. I think that it is the greatest present for men. Do you agree with me Doug? My first time will be very important for me. My first man should become a teacher for me. I hope there will be no changes in our relations because of it. the virginity will be my present to my man. I think it is very inportant.I hope you don`t think that it is strange. It is normal for the russian girl. Lots of men want only sex. They don't need any feelings. They are interested only in one night relations. that is why I don`t find my soulmate among the russian men. and I hope that for you my soul is more interesting than my body. Well, now, Don, i will be waiting for your letters about girl of your dream and what the most important things for you in people. Best wishes......... Natalya...

Hi, my dear Don... How are you? Now I know about the girl of your dream. I want to say that I suit you on some points, sometimes it seems to me that you describe me. Hahaha.. I am serious... Well, Don, you and me in different part of the world, in different time zone. But we have identical purpose, to meet someone who will be closer to us. You and me. By the way, Don, i always wanted to ask you about your country at all. About interesting places. Give me some note about your country. It is really interesting for me... And i will write you about my country. What about my country.... Yeahhh, it's very large country, you know it, i am sure you studied geography at school. Hahaha Ok, serious.... Russia is the biggest country all over the world. There are lots of cities and towns and villages in it. Have you ever been in Russia? Our country is very, very beautiful! We have a lot of wonderful places: seas, forests, mountains. Our towns are monuments of ancient architecture. Moscow, St. Petersburg, Vladimir. Our country is rich in mineral resourses and other fossils. But unfortunately our government cann`t use them right. That is why we have great depts to other countries and the government can`t pay for them now. Besides nowadays it is very dangerous to live in Russia: kidnapping, acts of terrorism, explotions. And our government and our president can`t control all this. And there are a lot of other problems in our country. Unemployed people, children without parents, antisocial elements, criminality. Today I went to the shop to buy some food and I saw a small boy, who was playing on guitar and singing beautiful songs. Such way he asked the money. I wasn't greedy and gave him a little money. In my town, Kazan, there are many such people, who are playing on musical instruments and make money such way. Basically it is children, who have no parents or have bad parents, who don't take care of them. Do you have such people in your country? But I hope that there will be better time in our country. I think we`ll cope with all these problems. And the main and the most important thing, what i can tell you, it is our country is very dangerous place for foreing people... I think that you read about skinhead.. Yes, the worse men... I don't know why, but they prefer only white skin and if you have black or another, they will kick you... And not only skin can makes your meeting with skinhead bad, they think that only russian can live in the Earth and you cann't..... That's all, dear Don, but i love this land and i hope that you don't afraid to come to my country and take me away..... Hahahaha.. Joke.... well, write me about your country... All what you can and all what you know..... Thank's before you will do it..... Your Natalya...


Olga Valerevna Babina (Kirov, Russia)

I am a 52 year old divorced male in the USA (Utah). They just keep on coming! I was first contacted by this scammer on February 26, 2005 through the OtherSingles site. The e-mail address used for this scam was babinaOLGA77@MAIL.RU This is the typical scam. I was asked to send 1100 dollars by Western Union for documents and airfare. What follows are many of the letters and a few of the many pictures sent. James G. (USA).

Letters:

First Message on OtherSingles site: From: OLGABAB - No longer a member - 27 Female, KIROV, Russian Federation 42400, Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 05 12:33PM Pacific
Greetings! My name is OLGA/I live in Russia in beautiful city KIROV. I search for the person for serious attitudes. To me of 26 years. I very much love sports and sports. Please write on mine e-mail: babinaOLGA77@MAIL.RU

February 28, 2005 (Letter No. 1)
Hi James!!! Excuse, that has not written to you at once. Simply I do not have computer of a house and I cannot write frequently very much. I not so well understand in computers. I live in Russia in city KIROV! To me 26 years, will be fast 27. My growth of 170 sm and weight about 56 kg. I very much love sports and in general sports. At school I was engaged in volleyball, but now at me the free time to go to a sports hall not so is a lot of. Now at leisure I frequently play in table tennis. And you love sports?? Still I like to walk in the evening one, when in the street it is snowing and not so coldly. Today at us approximately-1 C. What weather at you??? I live with parents. Write to me more about itself and you can ask to me any questions. I was necessary on them I shall answer! Your girlfriend OLGA!!

March 1, 2005 (Letter No. 2)
Hi James!!! Thanks for your letter. I am very glad, that you liked my photo. I'm fine. I search really serious attitudes. I very much want to find to myself the husband that it loved me and cared of me. I live in the big city, but my house to be far from ????? and at us a quiet and measured life. Near to my house park and I frequently go there to walk! Excuse, that I can not frequently write to you very much. I write from the Internet of club. It is approximately in 20 minutes on foot from my house. At us here it is very convenient and comfortable, the only thing that poorly is very small speed of the Internet. And what speed at you, if not a secret??? Today very good day was. About itself. I very much love sports, therefore I do not smoke and I do not drink. I think that young people should not smoke. I think, that smoking is harm. I do not have native brothers and sisters, but there is a cousin and the cousin. To their call KSENYA and VOVA!!!!. You have brother or sisters?? Write to me about the friends and as you carry out a free time. When I went to school at me in a class there were 20 girls and 4 boys. And when I studied in college at me in a class there were only girls. Therefore at me friends basically only girls. We frequently walk together, we go to cinema and we like to sit together and to listen to music. You basically listen to what music??? I like to listen to quiet music. What films you basically look?? I love films about love. I do not love films where many effects and any sense. I like when film sets thinking. My favourite color dark blue! And yours? Write to me about you, about the life. I very much unchained person. You can ask me about all. I shall answer all your questions. Today I have made one more photo. How I to you on it??? Write more likely, I with impatience wait for your answer. Your girlfriend on correspondence OLGA!!!

March 6, 2005 (Letter No. 6)
HI JAMES!!! I AM VERY GLAD THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN TO ME. HOW AT YOU THE AFFAIR? HOW ON WORK?? I HOPE THAT AT YOU ALL WELL. THE MY DEAR FRIEND EXCUSE THAT I COULD NOT WRITE TO YOU THE PROMPT REPLY. AS I SPOKE THAT IT DIFFICULTLY FOR ME I HAVE NO COMPUTER OF THE HOUSE. AND TO COME IN INTERNET CAFE EVERY DAY IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. BUT I THINK THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND ME. MY FRIEND I AM VERY GLAD TO LEARN YOU BETTER AS IN THIS CASE WE SHALL TRUST EACH OTHER. AND IF WE SHALL NOT TRUST EACH OTHER, AT US NOT THAT WILL NOT LEAVE. I WROTE TO YOU THAT TO ME VERY DIFFICULTLY TO TRUST MEN AS THEY I THINK ONLY OF THE BED. AND I SEARCH FOR LOVE IN WHICH ABOUT THE PERSON WILL BE HAPPY. THE MY DEAR FRIEND TO TRUST EACH OTHER WE SHOULD LEARN EACH OTHER SO TELL MORE ABOUT ITSELF AND ABOUT THE LIFE. TELL MORE ABOUT THE PLACE WHERE DO YOU LIVE. TELL ABOUT THE LIFE AT YOU. MY FRIEND UNDERSTAND TO IT IS NECESSARY TO KNOW EACH OTHER AS IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TRUST. ONCE I HAD ATTITUDES WITH THE MAN. I TRUSTED IT AND WE EVEN THOUGHT OF WEDDING, BUT DURING LAST MOMENT IT HAS LEFT ME AND HAS LEFT TO OTHER GIRL. MY HEART HAS BEEN BROKEN. I LONG STRUGGLED WITH THIS FEELING AND NOW TO ME I BECAME BETTER ALSO BEGAN TO SEARCH FOR THE LOVE IN INTERNETE. I ACCEPT THIS DECISION AFTER CONVERSATION WITH MY GIRLFRIEND WHO HAS FOUND THE LOVE ABROAD AND HAVE LEFT TO IT. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TRUST RUSSIAN PEOPLE AS I NOW THINK THAT ALL OF THEM SUCH, BUT CERTAINLY I AM MISTAKEN, BUT I VERY MUCH AM AFRAID TO BE MISTAKEN IN SECOND TIME. I THINK THAT YOU UNDERSTAND ME. I SHALL WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER. OLGA!!!

March 7, 2005 (Letter No. 7)
Hi James! I am very glad that you have written to me the letter. How your affairs??? At me all is very good. I too think, that we with you are very similar!!! I the fair person also do not like to deceive people. I very seriously concern to love. Than you were engaged in the days off?? Today I have a rest, tomorrow at us a holiday " the international women's day ". I very much like this holiday. You have such holiday??? I too very much want to learn you better. I very much like to read your letters. I wait for your letter. Yours OLGA!!

March 13, 2005 (Letter No. 11)
Hi my Dear James!! I am very glad, that you have written to me the letter. I all time think about you. I am very happy, when I come in the Internet club and I see that from you there is a new letter. I necessarily tomorrow learn, that is necessary to meet. At you today the day off?? At me yes. Tomorrow Monday and again begins the worker ??????!!! What are you going to do on Monday???? I too think, that we with you are very similar I is very glad, that we have got acquainted with you. I think, that it is destiny!!!!!! I wait for the answer from you. Already evening, I am going to go home to take a shower and lie in a bed. It is a pity to me that you are not present beside!!! With love. Yours OLGA!!

March 14, 2005 (Letter No. 12)
Hi MY LOVE !!! You - the most dear for me the person on the ground. I - a part of you. Together we a single whole. I for a long time searched for the person to whom I could give the heart and it was not.... Up to you!!!!! I give you not only the heart loving heart, but also all myself. My happiness and my pleasure are boundless, when I read your letters and I present that we soon shall meet you. I LOVE YOU!!!!!! You - sense of my life, do not leave me, do not throw me, without you me it will not be simple... I am afraid to lose you and to remain without love and the favourite person. I have written to you a verse. Forgive it in Russian. I do not know as it the translator will transfer, but I think you will understand sense: Speak, that time will heal, That any love will erase, And soul that to it it was easier Quickly new will select!!! It is silly, it is incorrect. It is simply inspired delirium!!! You understand, how it will be nasty, That you in my life are not present.. I shall not be glad to another, I have understood it for a long time, Heart another is visible is necessary, To love another!!! Be always with me. Your expensive OLGA!!!!

March 16, 2005 (Letter No. 13)
HI MY LOVE!!! I am very glad to receive from you such gentle letter. Thanks for beautiful words. I very strongly love you. I very much want to be with you. I am very glad, that you too love me and want to be with me. IF YOU WANT I CAN LEARN, HOW I CAN ARRIVE TO YOU!!! IF YOU WANT! I feel very happy when I read, your gentle words. You very good person and I very much want to make you happy. I am sure, that we shall be very good pair. I love you. I wait for letters from you. Yours for ever. With huge love. Yours OLGA!!

March 17, 2005 (Letter No. 14)
Hi my LOVE James!!! I too very much love you. I am glad, that you too love me. I today was in agency, to me have told that that I have arrived to you it is necessary 500 American $ on documents and 1000 $ on the ticket. At me is approximately 400 $, but I earn very little and I do not have opportunity to pay all. It is very inconvenient for me to ask. You can help me????? I very much love you and I want to make you happy!! Your love OLGA!!

March 18, 2005 (Letter No. 15)
Hi my LOVE James!!! I am very glad that you have written to me. I very much love your letters. I all time think of you. I like you????? My girlfriend has told, that it will be the best way to send money through "the Western union " poste restante. To send money to you it is necessary: BABINA, OLGA, VALEREVNA, City KIROV, The lenin prospectus 25. After you will send you will give control number (MTCN) to you it will be necessary to send me it. From you the full data are necessary. Name, surname, patronymic. City, the country, street. That to us to meet to me it is necessary 1100 more $. I hope, that soon we with you shall together and I shall make you happy!!!!! Your love OLGA!!


Svetlana (Rostov on Don, Russia)

Was corresponding with this woman for a few weeks. She initially wrote to me through a dating website and asked me to respond directly to her email address (svmisty@list.ru). After only a few days her profile had been removed from the dating website. It appeared to be a bit suspicious as emails looked liked they had been copied and pasted directly from online translation webpages even though she apparently spoke English well. She was not prepared to give a phone number or use any messenger services to maintain contact and did not provide any address details when asked. Suggestions of meeting in Russia were ignored and a foreign trip was clearly out of the question due to costs. After several weeks a best friend called Veronica was introduced. The following week Veronica sent an email from the same email address that Svetlana used and informed me of a serious car accident that Svetlana was involved in. Svetlana apparently was in a coma with serious injuries that required an operation costing several thousand dollars and I was asked to help with the costs. I informed Veronica that this sounded like a scam and heard no response since. This appears to be Svetlana Davidova as reported by Nick on the 29th March 2005. Steve


Veronika Andreisheva (Kozmodemiansk, Russia)

I am a 25 year old single English teacher in the Pacific Northwest United States. This lasted about a week and a half. I'm not really sure how she reached me initially as I have my email spread all over the place. From the beginning it seemed to good to be true, and sadly, it was. But this website saved me from losing a good amount of money. She asked that I use Western Union to send the money to her, Veronika Andreisheva. I have many emails from her and many pictures. Here is the first and last. I'm still a little in shock that this is how it is. I wanted it to be true so badly, but I never lost my head. Thank God. Kevin

Letters:

Hi my dear stranger Kevin! I have more recently learned to work on the Internet and have casually gone on a site where has found your profile. I very modest girl, but I nevertheless have dared to write to you as I think that communication with the person from other country is very unusual! I never communicated with people from other countries and I simply dream to find in your person of the friend with whom it is simply interesting to communicate and share news! You the first to whom I write and I hope, that our correspondence will have the good beginning! Now I sit in Internet - cafe and I write to you this letter! I think, that time has come to get acquainted! My name is Veronika. I from Russia, live in the city Kozmodemiansk. I'm 26 years old. My growth 175 Centimeters. My Birthday is July,8. On a horoscope Cancer. Nationalities I am Russian. My religion: the Christian. On character I the sanguine person: very cheerful, kind, vigorous and in a measure modest. I easily find common language with strangers and simply I like to communicate on interesting themes! My job: the teacher of biology. I work at school and I'm teaching children of biology about plants and animals. I very much love animals. When I was a child, I studied at musical school during 4 years where I learned playing on a piano. I was the winner of many festivals and competitions on music. All spoke about me as about talented the pupil. But I am engaged in playing on a piano just a little now, but frequently I sing in karaoke and always I get the highest results! When I have free time i like walk in the parks which are a lot of in my town. I am absorbed in books as well. Pushkin, Esenin are the great poets deserving to be read by everyone. I take pleasure in reading poems about which I can tell a bit more. In my 16-17 I delighted visiting my granny and grandpa in the small city of Zelenograd in 50 km from Moscow in Russia. They reside in a small house but have a big orchard. This is an astonishing place like paradise especially it is beautiful in spring and summer when there flower apple-trees, cherry-trees and apricots. I rollick in waking up early in the morning and listening to birds singing and looking at trees aflower. It is a beautiful nature like nothing else on earth. It is gorgeous and marvelous in coloring. A trifle later our orchard treated us with fruits tasting deliciously. I still remember this flavor. Closing my eyes I see the picture of my orchard. My grandpa comes to my mind catching fish on the lake and we waited for him with impatience. Granny cooked a very tasteful fish soup. What is more? My granny had small goats. She milked them and gave me fresh milk. In evenings I with my friends, get together to read poems. Oh! I am just lost in warm memories of my childhood. I think one can write about them endlessly. It is much pleasant for me to correspond with you about my memories. All this takes me deeply. I enjoy swimming and from time to time I attend swimming-pool. I like going on foot. Active life is generally my cup of tea. I can write about it long and long. If you take some interest in this point of my life, I will talk to you about it in my next letters. I hope, that my letter was pleasant to you! I too wait from you for interesting letters! I hope, we shall soon make friendship and we become the best friends! With hope your Veronika mailto:sweetsveronika@mail.ru

My love Kevin! I am glad you have understood me. You are in very high position in my opinion. I am happy to hear these words and explanation from you. It makes me cheerful to know you like the poem. !!! I can't be apart from you, it's so hard! My Kevin , you are my life, , I want to hug you so much, to feel your warmth, to look into your kind and tender eyes, to feel myself happy and safe near you, dear. I'm sure everything will be well and the destiny will work for us and we will be happy together my Kevin . I often think about us and try to imagine our life together. Sometimes I feel you so near and close to me. I even feel you on the distance. I feel when you are in a high spirit and when you are sad. I am happy when you are happy, my love Kevin . I know that our hearts will together always, because our love is eternal, this great feeling connects the another people and us through a continents. My dear, my love Kevin, as it seems, this feeling great love which includes a three basic feelings. These feelings are a trust, careful attitude to each other, and complete understanding to each other, sometimes even understanding without words,do you agree with me my darling? But not looking on that the love is very strong great feeling, it also is very fragile, realy my dear, because only one word or an not right action can destroy it and already anybody willn't can to restore this great feeling. Probably, you will think that a purpose of all my correspondence with you it's only desire to leave for USA. Believe me my love Kevin, it's not so my love, the fact in that when I began to write to you, I couldn't believe what it is possible to fall in love through the Internet. I thank God and an Internet that we found each other in this so large world my darling. Only I have decided to try to do it and that from this it has turned out. We are me and you love each other very much and we should be together, because we can't withoiut each other my darling. I have learned much in the searches as we want to meet each other very much. My dearest love man!!! I have a good great happy news for us my darling !!! The fact in that my aunt Svetlana have learned about all information for my coming to you! Svetlana has informed that she has learned how much cost a visa and a foreign passport too. Svetlana have connected with Embassy and there have said to her that it will be better for us with you, , if I will have the visa of a tourist. This tourist visa B-2, the visitor visa will valid during six months. On this type of visa I'll can travel till USA without any restrictions. The price of this visa, as Svetlana was informed in embassy, is 220 US dollars. In this price includes the process of the registration of the visa which costs 80 US dollars. By the way aunt Svetlana as has taken an interest about other kinds of the visas too, as to her have said, that there is a set of kinds of the visas. For example, visa of a bride. Svetlana has thought that this visa of bride approaches to us, but her in Embassy have said that this visa costs more expensively and visa's registration costs a lot of money. It's around 750 dollars US and the registration of the visa will during seven months, it is very long and expensive! From it because the tourist visa B-2 is the betterest variant than visa of bride now for us my love ! My love , I want to ask you one thing my , I will need to ask your help with a financial charges for the getting all necessary documents for my coming to you, . As probably, may be you know an economic situation in our country, simply it's awful, and at our bar don't give the salary to work personal during a long time. Our government explains it to those that simply they don't have a money, it's a difficult financial situation, and they don't have a recourses on the salary for the any kind of the job in total. My dearest, my love , I have a great desire to come to you, to see you at last and only recourses separate us from each another. I love you so much, honey, and I don't want to lose you. Nobody can't help me with it. Of course, I asked my parents and friends to help me with this charges on the necessary documents for my coming, but my mother and father doesn't have such money though they would like to help us. My dearest Kevin, in generally I'll need for 490 US dollars. It's certainly large money, you probably have thought what is it more than the total price of the visa and visa's registration, but I will must to get the foreign passport too of course the price of which is 170 US dollars. Also I will need to pay for medical exams too, it will be 100 dollars. By the way aunt Svetlana will try to find the cheaper prices of the air ticket for the fling to you. I want to ask you,Kevin , what is the nearest airport (name of the airport) from your city? Also, please, tell me about the approximate price of the airplane ticket too, ok? Please, aunt Svetlana will need this datas! As Svetlana will try to find a cheaper airticket! I so happy from this so happy news from aunt Svetlana! But now, at first, my Kevin, I will must to begin a process of the registration of all necessary documents, in total I will need 490 US dollars as I said. My dearest Kevin, if you will send me this so necessary funds for this documents, it will be better to do through a system of Western Union, I have interested about this at my relatives. As the relatives have said me, Western Union is the beterest and fast transfer system in the world. Also my love , you will need in some datas from me, you will need my full name, if you remember, Veronika Andreisheva.

My dearest Kevin, I want to ask you, when you will sent this recourses 490 dollars, it will be necessary for me, that you must to send me an important information which required at a parcel of money. As to me have told, it is the control number which consist of 10 digits (Money Transfer Control Number-MTCN). This number you will have in the receipt which work operator will give you. My dearest Kevin, you will must to send me this so important data in e-mail. Without this data MTCN I willn't can to get the recourses which are necessary for my coming to you my dear. My love Kevin, I understand completely that it's a large money, but to me any more on whom I can to rely and on this I ask you about your help with this charges. My love , we are me and you love each other very much and we will together, simply, I sure in it my darling !!! I'm waiting and I'm dreaming for a moment of our meeting in your airport my ! I will cry in this moment, when I will leave from an air gangway and when I will see you my , because it will from our happiness my love. I close my eyes and I am imagining about this so happy picture. My love, I dream as we will live together my darling, to go for a walk, keeping for our hands my love Kevin. I want that you will show me your native land, a places where you like to go for a walk and where you like to spend a more of your time, also I want to get acquainted with your relatives and closest friends so much! I want to be with you very much, so much my love Kevin! I love you Kevin, and I miss you my dearest love ! My dear , I want to say to you that I have spoke with my mom and dad about us again and again, especially about my coming to you! I want to say to you that my family have so many happy smiles for us and they approve our close love feelings with you my Kevin, they are so happy because we love each other very much, simply they have said me that we will happy with you and they wish us a large happiness together! They see my feelings and my happiness from our love with you, and they understand me that we with you can't without each other and wish us a great love in this time and our future life too! Simply great greetings from my family to you,Kevin, please, accept the love from my parents, they love you as a relative son! Well, my love Kevin, let me to end my e-mail my dearest Kevin, I'm waiting for your messages so much my love !!! You very attractive person with huge soul and beautiful ideas, my heart belongs only to you, I can not find other person, money are not necessary for me, I shall try to borrow(occupy) what that a part of money what to arrive to you but I do not think that it will be much, I want to be with you I would want that money for our family together earned, we shall be necessarily happy. I love you my darling !!!!!!! many many my warm kisses and hugs for you! forever, your love Veronika See you. mailto:sweetsveronika@mail.ru


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