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Scamming may not be a crime, but stealing money is. I am going to nail these guys, if its the last thing I do. Thank you for fighting the good fight. We should all stand together to rid the world of this scum.

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I was not in the pursuit of buying a bride much less love and had never heard of mail order bride until now. I honestly felt I was doing the right thing because I believed still in all the good things in life. It was my belief mail order brides was all part of old westerns but not something that existed this day and age. Now after research I have discovered that some vile evil persons use that concept to prey on honest singles whose only real interest is to find other serious minded singles in the pursuit and fulfillment of life long dreams and steal their money by making misleading and false promises.

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Iesmina Giosu (Satu Mare, Romania)

I am a 40 year old male who is a contractor in the USA. I live 3 hours west of 
Chicago. I have a 11 year old daughter.

I contacted the scammer on seekingchristian.com . Seekingchristian.com did 
not even send me a email about it!!! She claimed she was on a 10 day trial, 
and her profile was gone in about 10 days. I also have found another scammer 
from this sight and suspect another one who asked me for money. I also sent 
them a email about the second scammer and did not recieve a email. I did not 
verify the second scammer was removed.

I had a relationship with her for 3 months. I did have her name checked and a 
flower sent to her and someone was at the correct address. Sadly they were not able to take a picture of her. I even sent her money to buy a Bible. She had 
her picture taken with the bible, so she knows the real person in the picture. 
I suspect there are several people working together to scam people there. She 
asks for money for a Passport and Visa. She also hinted about needing money 
for a Fan in the hot weather. I sent her money for a fan, plane ticket,also.

I lost track of the exact ammount since I gave so much so often but it ended 
up being around 3000.00 USD I sent 100.00 by western union and the rest by 
money gram. One check was 800.00 . I still have reciepts of two from money 
gram of 300.00 and 265.00 . Numbers for those are 83297515 and 71910866. Sadly I cleaned the house for her arrival and threw the others away. She did not step off of the plane she has the reservation for. She cancelled the plane 
tickets 6 days before coming here on july 31. flight 50 to chicago on air 
france 3:20 arrival time. I felt like the fool waiting for her when she did 
not show up.

I do know she was in Romania since the 40 on the country code (phone)tells you she is in Romania. I talked to her about 40 hours on the phone. Her phone number is 011-40-72-165-0245 She also claimed to live at Satu mare verde street #10 apt 8. I had a rose delivered to her there.

I bought her a bible and had her take her picture with it. she had the picture 
in less than 24 hours! She is the person in this picture or knows the person very well.

She has a very sweet personality and is very charming! she is a VERY practiced liar and can think very fast to think up more good lies. she is also quite smart. I suspect that she is seasoned scammer or a person who was trained very well by one.

Letters

From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> 
Subject: hi 
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:00:19 +0000 

passport it is 265 dolars and if i want to have it less then 20 days 
then i have to pay an emergency tax who is 45 dolars,
i have to take papers from civil house who are 234 dolar 
they atest that i dont have a record,papers who atest my marital status 
:who atest that i dont have kids and i am not marryed 
:202dolars,papers from work who atest that i work legaly are 90 dolars,
blodd test :260 dolars and then i have to go to bucharest with this papers 
and pay the visa fee who is 100 dolars and 11 dolars to banck transilvania 

From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> [ Save address ] 
Subject: Re: Suprise 
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:18:40 +0000 

hello my sweet........ thank u verry much for your gift,i really cant believe 
that i will have my own bible!what u did for me make me verry happy and i am verry triled,i cant believe it,i will go and i will by one these days when i will be able to get some time off from work.i have talked with my friend today ,the one who made me the pictures and she said that she will try to find a camera to make me a picture,as i said i do my best but i dont want to promise.i hope she will find one these days to take a picture for u and send it for u to be sure and for u to have no doubts that it is me .right now i am at work and i toucked 10 min off to eat something and it is noone in the office so i was able to send u this email kiss u sweet honey and i talk to u when i get home from work
thank u again and u make me verry happy....... noone did for me what u have 
did! kiss u sweet and i wish u a great day

dodajr wrote:
HI sweetheart!

I went and got you a western union money order so you could buy a Bible for 
yourself.

The MTCN is 342-122-6639

This is the number you need to get it. Cash it and get the Bible.
Buy a nice one and have your first name printed on the cover.
Dont forget to send a picture of yourself and the bible. and I DONT want you 
to buy a cheep one. Buy a good one that will last and one that looks good! :o)

Thinking of you
*hugs and kisses*

Dwayne 



From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> [ Save address ] 
Subject: Re: hello my sweet 
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:11:06 +0000 

hi,i just got your email and in the first place i want to tell u some 
things:about the student visa:what u say it is a big mistake becasue 
in every year in roumania and in other coutryes all the4 good students 
have the chioice to aply for a student visa but only if they take all 
theyr exams and verry big grades,thing that happend to me also,soi i 
donno who told u this big fool thing because it is not true.regarding 
the tourist visa again u are wrong and i really dont know who give u 
thisfake information because let me giveu an example from 100 people 
who want to leave 80 aplyes for a tourist visa because they have someone 
there ,and they have where to stay ,and from this 80 persons 70 leaves 
and i know this for sure.i live here and i know this things.and u tell 
me that "nobody has ever been able to do this only scameers"??
llllllllloooooooollllllll 
this si a big joke and it means that my firend who left from here it is a 
scmmer or what?
and not only her but manny others who left?please.......
in the first p;lace the papers that i have told u the embassy tell u 
to do it not my head or my firends head,are papers from the embassy and 
yes u are correct they dont give u information ,they give information 
to ppeople who want ot leave and my friend dont charge me anithing ,she 
is able to do this because as i said it is my friend and only thing that 
she have to pay to the bureau where she works are 50 dolars ,50 dolars 
that they are putter in the price of the paper work.and in the first place 
passport dont have anithing to do withthe visa,the passport have his own 
price even if u go in hungary ,even if u go in usa doesant matter.what u 
say here witht he student visa i never heard in my life:are about 100 or 
maybe more students who leave from here every year to be in usa and i dont 
belive that embassy told u this because for this they have "student visa
"and thats why they have this program for the students who are verry smart 
they give a chance ,so im sorry but i have to disagree with u completly and 
witht he tourist visa the same.those are the papers and those are the prices 
if u belive me ok if not still ok ,i try to explain u some things and 
for sure i am not a scammer or hhow u call it there but if u think this 
it is your problem.
again i tell u that i did not updated anithing on my profile,in the first 
place i did not opne the profile from about 3 days ,i ddi not go there 
because i tought i found my man but he dont trust anithing from what i say 
so i donno why i bother so much?from the first time when i made the profile 
i writed in it and i put pics but in the first place i dont pay it and it is 
free and i think it already expired because they dont let u stay on that site 
if u dont pay,and i dont have credit card,and if u dont pay they let u i think 
10 days.but i donno why i talk about this because i really dont care about 
that site and i will not go there animore.it is hard to prouve someone sothing 
when he dont want this.and if u are so afraid that u will be or i donno 
scammed 
why u dont frind someone from there,someone that u can see every day?it 
bothers 
me that i have to prouve that i am honest when i know that i am and still i 
prouved 
and still the same mistrust.
u did not forgot to tell me about the pefume,u told me last night u dont 
remeber??
u said that u have feellings ofor me but still u dont belive anithing form 
what 
i say.... tyo bad.i have feelings for u to that s why i try to explain u 
things 
and thats why i talk to u but like this i dont want and i will not continue 
because 
i have sufered enough and i promised to myself that any other man will make me 
suffer 
and iw ill not allow that again and not any man will take me as a fool.so do 
how u 
want and take a decision,i dont have any reason to lie for some. lausy 
money.callt 
he police ,call the fbi call who u want but i am real and i am how i say i am 
and 
i will not change for anyone but if u will continue like this u will loose me 
for 
goo.and with this stile u willnever found anyone to be with u because maybe u 
dont 
know but u humiliateed me and u made me feel like noone make me feel.so please 
stiop 
if u want ot be with me ,if u want to make fun or if u play a game then stop 
because 
i will not tolerate this anymore.i am a gentle and honest and with the GOD 
fears 
woman but it is enough.so again please think good and tell me what we will do 
but 
please stop with stupid question and keep foolish things for yourself i dont 
need 
to hear all kinds of things that i know are not true(for example tourist viosa 
and student visa)
so i wish u a great day with your daughter and GOD bless her.i will not be 
online today because i have alot of work and i will be verry tired and i need 
to rest.i wait your answer 
have a cool day jasmin


From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> [ Save address ] 
Subject: Re: Hi Sweetheart 
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 16:53:18 +0000 

hello my sweet,thank u for everithing.i writed u a letter on yahoo mess 
,but i guess u are not able to see it.i bought a fan indeed and u save me
from sufering and i can sleep like a human beeing in bed.lol.it is verry 
good to have air and not feel that u sufocate.as i said i was yesterday 
and i payed the tax for the papers from civil house.im verry glad that i 
can make progrees for us and for our life.it is verry good to know that 
someone it is thinking of u and love u and treat u like a woman.i alsmost 
forgot how it is this feelling.as u know i suffered alot like u did but 
now things are better and i cant wait the moment when we will be togheter 
and start our life with good and bad.GOD it is good and HE will help us in 
everithing we do and my faith it is verry strong.
as u know im not such a good writer and i can express feellings better when 
u are here to respond,lol.
i miss u alot and i want to thank u again for making me feel alive ,good and 
loved.
i wish u only good days at work and everithing to go smood and simple for u
i send u kisses and my love
jasmin



From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> [ Save address ] 
Subject: Re: Hi Sweetheart 
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 07:57:58 +0000 

HELLO my sweet,i was verry happy to receive your letter and to see that u are 
fine.i eat my sandwich right now and untill i will i said to write u a few 
words for u to know that i am okay and that i pray and think of u all the time.at 
work i put sandwiches from home ,i dont buy food from town because i cant afford to so i buy from market food like i donno bacon salami,stuff like that and i make sandwiches to have what to eat all day untill i get home from work.
i hope u will have a wonderfull 4 of julie i know that there it is a verry big 
holliday,i hope u will have a great time.
u asked me about the fan:it is a big fan,i donno how to explain but it blows 
air verry good .when i touck the money i had to exhange them in dolars and i lost about 3 dolars,the fan was 48 dolars and the papers that i did was 235 
dolars,and from the money that i had left i buyed some food that was in dolars about 15 dolars and i have left 50 dolars ,money that i puted aside to have i donno for the next paper or for the train when i will have to leave to embassy because the train it is 100dolars to go and to return.next i have to make the blood test ,to pay the papers from marital status and papr from work:202+90+260=552 this is all that i have to doand it will be great to make them all at once.after the papers will be ready i would be able to leave to bucharest but this we will talk when the time will come.
i got the flower yes thank u verry much,i got it the day after we have talked 
on the phone,a guy came and bringed to me at home .
noone did this for me and even if i was with somene from manny years he buyed me flowers i think 3 or 4 times in manny years,your gesture touched my heart and my soul.thank u for beein so nice and gentle with me
I CANT WAIT TO BE IN YOUR ARMS AND FEEL U BESIDE ME AND LOVE U !i miss u alot my sweet!
kiss u sweet honey and GOD bless your days and nights
love you jasmin


From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> [ Save address ] 
Subject: Re: Hi Sweetheart 
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:29:52 +0000 

hello honey im glad thaqt u found a god deal for fireworks ,i cant wait to use 
them toghether,here we dont have fireworks,well we do but only small ones.
baby i did not forgot about the money for visa the 111 and the 11 dolars ,but 
first we have to make the papers here in the city and i dont need the money now foor that, i will nbeed them when i will go to bucharest.to bucharest i will go when the passport will be ready and all this papers that we do now honey,thats why i said only the cost of the papers from here 552 dolars .to bucharest i will have to go with the train i will make about 9 houres and the train it is 80 dolars to go and to return i will be there in the morning and i go and leave the papers there and they tell me a date ,for example :5 julie.,and then i will have to go to take the visa andwhen they will tell me the date then i will need the tiket and i wil take the suitcases with me and i will come to u.but first i go there i pay the visa fee and i leave them the papers and i will have to come back in town.after i iwll be back from bucharest i iwll have to mouve my 
stuff to my parents and then again i have to go with train ,that it is 47 dolars,and if u want me i can remain there untill i will leave to u but as u know i will have to quit my job ,and if i do that i will not have any money and it will be kinda dificult.
but that it will be your decision if i can stay there or not because without 
your help u know i cant ,but i dont want to be a burden for u.
so for next week i make only the rest of this papers and it will take a few 
days to be ready .so when the passport will be ready only then i will be able to leave to bucharesatr and then i will need the 122 dolars and if u can the money for the train and for some food there.
if u dont understandsomething from what i say we will talk on the phone and i 
will be able to expalin u better i hope but i hope that i could explain u good.
a guy from that service came and give me a red and beautifull rose but he did 
not said anithing or had a camera at him.honey here we dont have cameras because are verry expensive and i dont know if they make this kind of services,again thank u for your gesture i felt loved again and it is a beautifull feelling please dont worry ,i know that we will be altille bit tight for awile but for 
our love and our happiness we do everithing so i really dont care as long as i am with u.i know how it is to live hard and it will not be a problem for me so please dont worry about it, we will be fine i am sure because i am a verry understanding person and i think u know that. i wait your call if u are able to do it if not it is okay i hope we talk tomorrow...............by the way i am still at work have to finish some paperrworks here
love you jasmin

From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> [ Save address ] 
Subject: Re: Hi Sweetheart 
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 16:03:04 +0000 

hello honey,dont be upset because it is not good .u know how manny problems i have with internet,it happends all the time but we dont have what to do.im sorry that we could not talk last night,we got disconected the second time also,i hate this connection but it will not be long untill we will not need the internet because we will be toghether. well honey i need 47 for the train to go to my parents,80 dolars it is the tiket to go to bucharest the first time and then another tiket when i will leave for good from my parents house but that it is 40 dolars because it will be only one way.and then i donno... money to live 2 weeks there ,welli need to buy things like here and pay them because 
they cant afford to pay in my place ,it is verry hard for them .... i odnt know to tell u exactly about 300 or 400 with all the expenses with train and everithing.please u decide and i will manage from what u will send me untill i will leave from the country.as i said only the trains will be 170 dolars.so please u decide and again i am telling u that i iwll manage with what i will have and buy them something nice from that money i have talked to them and my mom cryed because she cant help me and she wantsthat so much and she hate the fact that this country dont allow u to help your children.they are happy that i found my happiness and that i will have a new and better life far from here and to be able to offer to our kids what they need,and if they need in life our help 
to be able to give it. i will need to go back to work and i hope i can talk to u soon love u my sweet 
jasmin 


From: LADY IESMINA <iesmina_2004@yahoo.com> [ Save address ] 
Subject: Re: Hi Sweetheart 
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:02:49 +0000 

HELLO my sweet ,i just came to write u an email because at home i dont have 
internet and i hate the fact that u are home and i am not able to talk to u.i came intoan internet caffee as i said to write u a short note and to check my emails from u because yesterday at work i did not had timeand i could not.i was to pay the rest of the papers and now at 12 30 i iwll go to make the blood test,i hope i will not be dizy because they will take alitlle blood and outside it is verry verry hot. i have talked to my mom today and they wait for to come ,they are verry happy about my leaving and sad in the same time because they know that they will not see me from a long time from now. after i iwll go to make the blood test i will go to buy to my dad that suitcase with tools and to my mom that necless. now i wait for the papers to be done and i will leave to my parents.i will go and pick up the money because at my home are safe and i dont carry them with me because i dont have why, and i dont have to much left because i payed everithing except the blood test ,but this i will pay at 12 30 and tomorrow will be done and of course i have money for the presents but 
will be spent to buy them and what it is remaining.dont worry please because 
noone knows about money or something and i am verry carefull and as i said i dont carry them with me. i was verry sorry last night that we lost connection and u could not call me back,i wanted so much to talk to u. after i iwll finish with everithing that i have to make i will go alitlle bit to work to meet the person who will take my place and show her everithing.i really hope she is smart!for her good.....lol we will talk in the evening honey i wish u a great night and after that a great evening
i love u jasmin


Dwayne 

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Tatyana Antipina (Samara, Russia)

Hey there,
Name's Mark and am a single father of 3. Hadn't seen this name or photos so I figured I'd post. I was contacted by the scammer(s) via match.com (the account 
has since been closed). I knew almost immediately that this was a scam. 26 yr old girls don't typically contact 46 yr old men out of the blue....especially when the match.com profile says she's out of Ohio and then I find out she's russian.

Contact was for about a month before the "money" letters were sent. I've posted the last two I received. Request initially was for 900 USD and the second request was for 600 USD.

I've also seen the initial letter he/she/it sent from others...seems to be a basic form that these scammers are using. I've also noticed that the request for money letter from these persons seems to be a form letter too.

I never responded to the last message and the scammer(s) have not contacted me since. 

Name: Tatyana, 
Surname: Antipina, 
Russia, Zip code: 612820,
City: Samara, Mira st. 24-12
Email: lightsource31@yahoo.com


This letter came Aug 14 2006:

Hi lovely XXXXXX! I am glad to read your message . I
feel itself it is a little inconvenient. Because I had
to address to you for the help. I always counted 
myself the independent person, which itself can solve
all problems. But, this time, I could not all to take
into account and was mistaken that I can pay all
travel itself . When I travelled earlier, it costed
for me less. But I it is happy, what now I have you
XXXXXX, - the person, which can come to me to the aid
and help me in a life. After ours acquaintances, at
me varies sensations of. Earlier I counted myself the
strong and independent person, and it was pleasant
for me to feel, that I can care of myself. And now I
feel simply the woman who requires support. But it is
pleasant for me, to feel beside strong the man which
protects me from all excitements of a life!XXXXXX,
I informed a place of arrival to you to the agent and
he expected the staying charges for me. It will
be for me 1650 USD. Here tickets, insurance, road up
to the airport and some other necessary charges.With
me have still remained money, after payment of the
first parts of cost. It near 750 USD, and now is
necessary for me, in 3-4 days near 900 USD to pay in
agency the second part of cost travel. I hope dear,
that this money not difficulty for you and you can
help to pay to me, in 3-4 days, 900 USD in agency .
Lovely, I hope, that I did not make to you difficulty
by the haste. Probably it is not planned expenditure
for you. If it so, not become angry about me please!
I very much miss
on you and I wait for ours meetings. I shall inform
to you some news which I learned from the agent. 
He informed me, that they do not accept, for 
payments, bank moving of money to the account,
from private persons. They accept such payment only
from the organization at travel by groups. Therefore I
to me too should make the second part of payment by 
cash. The agent has told, that in our city some banks
are engaged in moving of money from other countries.
he has told. That they make it quickly, it demands
for them about one day. In our city some systems for
moving work. It " Western Union ". You need to go in
bank in which is office. In bank to me have told,
that such offices are available in each city,
therefore for you the problem will not find it. When
you will send money, you will need to specify my full
name . When I shall receive this money I should
specify your full name and the address. Also, I
should inform in bank confidential number (MTCN.) 
this number to you inform in bank at sending money,
and you
will need to inform this number to me in the messages.
All moving will borrow some hours, but it will be
necessary to pay for it the some people money to 
bank. I think XXXXXX, that it is a reliable way of
moving.
My information :
Name: Tatyana, 
Surname: Antipina, 
Russia, Zip code: 612820,
City: Samara, Mira st. 24-12
I wait for your messages XXXXXX! Thousand kisses.

Yours Tatyana.



P.S I shall try to call to you the coming days



This letter came Aug 15 2006:

Hi lovely XXXXXX, I am glad to receive your letter,
I understand, what is it large sum, but I so want
with you to be seen, To meet you. I think, that by
general efforts we We can collect the necessary sum of
money. You send to me a part of the sum, Is 600 $,
and other part of money I shall try to take in duty on
To the job or I shall try to take in a duty from the
friends. Lovely only to me are necessary there will
be this money in nearest days what to pay a part of
my accusations in agency I asked the agent can you
pay my accusations on the account of a travel 
company, agent informed me, that they do not
accept, for
payments, bank moving of money to the account, from
private persons.They accept such payment only 
from the organization at travel by groups. Therefore
I to me too should make the second part of payment by
cash. Lovely I inform you the information of the
agent and I hope you can contact to him , but he
badly speaks on English, I heard that moving of money
through Western Union much very conveniently and only
a few hours are necessary to receive money from other
country, it is a
lot of the people all over the world use Western
Union, I today came into Office of Western Union and
me have told that you can send money by a credit
card WWW.Westernunion.com Lovely I hope that all will
be
good also we can soon will meet, I very much miss
and I think of you and about much our meeting, my
mum transfers you hi and hopes also that all will 
be good, I send you my kisses and I shall wait your
letter. Your Tatyana.

Attached are a few pictures. I received about 10 from them. 

good luck!,
Mark

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