Natalia
Derevyashkina (Magadan, Russia)
I have been reading your blacklist and I too had almost fallen prey to this
terrible person going by the name of "Natalia Derevyashkina".
Although I didn't send any money to her, Thank God, I thought I should pass
along as much information as possible To keep this from happening to anyone
in the future. She now says her Home is in City of Magadan,Street Pushkin 43-90. Height
168 cm. Weight
53 kgs. She's only child and her birthday is June 1, 1974. I trust and hope all of this information helps everyone to stay away from
here as although I did not send her any money, My feeling have been hurt.
Pictures are as follows and please post them in your site;
Scott from Wisconsin, USA
  
Nataly Agency
(Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine)
I wish to add to your list, a possible scam involving the Nataly Agency in
Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine. I have communicated with two different women
from this agency and received letters that are virtually identical including the
same spelling and grammatical errors. Here is a sample taken from letters that
I received from each. One might reasonably expect that initial letters would be
"boiler plate" jobs, done by the agencies but these excerpts are not from
profiles or initial letters.
From Ella Kostyuchenko:
Maybe I am simplier that you imagine me. I don't speak English because
mostly people don't in my country. I don't have a computer at home, because
it's very expensive thing and it's luxery to have it at home. I dream about
buying one, but it's impossible right now. I use internet service of Nataly
Marriage Agency in my city. I have my add there. Presently I don't correspond with anybody, I even don't know why it doesn't work out yet.
Maybe because I can't reply sometimes fast. Some people don't understand
that life here is very hard and sometimes you can't write a letter by e-mail just
because you don't have money to pay for this. That's why I wouldn't like to
keep long correspondence, but I would like to know for sure that I have a
chance to meet my pen-pal in person.
From Marina Mikhailik:
Maybe I am simplier that you imagine me. I don't speak English , just a very
little bit, because people don't speak English here. I don't have a computer at
home, because it's very expensive thing and it's luxery to have it at home. I
dream about buying one, but it's impossible right now. I use internet service of
Nataly Marriage Agency in my city. I have my add there. Presently I don't
correspond with anybody, I even don't know why it doesn't work out yet.
Maybe because I can't reply sometimes fast. Some people don't understand
that life here is very hard and sometimes you can't write a letter by e-mail just
because you don't have money to pay for this. That's why I wouldn't like to
keep long correspondence, but I would like to know for sure that I have a
chance to meet my pen-pal in person.
I wrote to Marina (at 11:19:17 AM EDT) pointing out this concern and asking
that she contact me in some way other than through the agency if she was real
and interested in further communication. Her response was sent back to me at
2:13:18 PM EDT:
Hello XXXXX,
I do not see anything bad that Agency helped me to create my profile. When I
came here, I did not know what to write and how to write. I am not a writer, I
am a medical nurse. The psychologist of Nataly Agency talked with me for
about an hour and offered me an exapmle of a letter which would reflect my
character better of all. We were doing it together trying to express my
personality, thoughts, expectations. I take this correpondence very seriously
because I hope to find my life-partner very soon. I will not leave the Agency. I
know that it's a very reliable, honest, and trustworthy company. I talked
personaly with women who are now in a process of fiancee visa through Agency! I saw many pictures of happily married couples on displays here, in
office! I read letters of our women who were clients of Nataly Agency, and
now they live in USA, Canada, Australia, Germany, Holland, etc. I trully believe these people are very helpful, they bring people together. They make
invitations for visa, they submit papers, do translations, accompany women to
Embassy, they do so much job. You offer to me to go somethere else to correspond but do you know how much will I pay for this in another place?
Nataly Agency charges less for translation than any English translation service
charges. Before this I was a client of Soul Agency here, in Dniepropetrovsk
and I spent my money for nothing being their customer for 1 year. But here, in
Nataly, I receive letters already and I hope to reach my goal soon. I wish you
the best in your searches, Marina Mikhailik.
Note that Marina explained identical lines in her PROFILE and Ella's but she
did not address the fact that I was not comparing two profiles but rather
LETTERS that were sent in response to my letters to her. Note the times of
my last email and her response. Nataly agency received my email, translated it
from English to Russian, Marina picked it up and wrote her response in
Russian and the agency translated it into English and emailed it to me all in less
than 3 hours. Fat chance!
I might not have picked this up except that a few months ago I was
successfully taken for a few hundred dollars by Irina Konyakova (Konkova)
also of the Nataly Agency in Dnepropetrovsk. She was extremely convincing
and I really still don't know for sure if she might just have lost interest in me. If
that is so, the timing of her loss of interest was quite fortuitous for her.
Look out guys - these people seem to be good at what they do.
Roger
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Natasha
Kuvshinova (Ekaterinburg, Russia)
I received a reply to my kiss.com account from
Miss Natasha Kuvshinova. Natasha sounded too good to be true. Natasha would say all of the right
things and displayed such emotion, Natasha even answered most of my questions.
After three weeks of writing she easily fell in love with me and I was even told that I was to be
her husband and lover!
Luckily I knew about your site and learned very much about scammers. Natasha met many of
the traits of typical scammers. Natasha had no phone, Natasha had no Father.
I offered to help with the cost of e-mails but then she said that she goes to internet cafe and can
cover the costs herself! (impressive)
Last week I was then told by Natasha that she was coming to the United
States and needed 350 dollars for a visa, luckily I knew that in Russia it is very hard to get a visa to the states.
I received another e-mail to forward money to WESTERN UNION for airplane ticket for the amount of
983 dollars!
I was very fortunate to have studied about Russia and the ways to obtain
visas, this has helped me to save myself from being scammed! I have nothing but praise for this site!
I enclose a Natasha's address in hopes of helping others that may be corresponding
with her. Also enclosed is a photo.
Thank you!
Kenneth
Natasha Kuvshinova
Street Shevchenko The House 8
Apartment #47
Ekaterinburg Russia
Oksana Bocharnikova
(Ukraine)
I received an e-mail from Oksana Bocharnikova on the 21st of April 2001, informing me that she found my details on a matrimonial website. Her
initial e-mail appeared very somber, asking if would want to communicate, leaving the decision to myself. I felt she deserved a chance!
However, her next e-mails, really exposed herself, she made claims of love, endlessly referring to me as her "prince", yet knowing very little or seeing a picture of me. I thought it may be due to her weak
English. I saw her blacklisted details on your website, and I was alarmed, she wrote to me for over a week,
writing almost everyday. She sent pictures of what I thought was her, an exceptionally
beautiful girl. I was besotted, and heart broken when I learnt the truth.
The pictures she sent to me, were different to that sent in by another victim.
She later asked for $80, for her internet costs, she felt if she couldn't pay, she would get disconnected, and therefore couldn't keep in touch with me,
I wouldn't have sent money to a complete stranger anyway, but emotionally I was devastated.
Please be aware, the approach to me was different, as I am a Muslim, she posed as a
Muslim, and seems to have studied my faith in quite some depth .Please be careful and ignore any
proposition from her.
I hope we all find genuine women of our dreams
RK England
Letter 1
Salam Aleikum Raashid,
Thank you very much for you kind reply. I'm finally got it. May be you
are the right one for me.... In Sha Allah... I'm young, beautiful and attractive Muslimah from the Ukraine.
I'm from respected family. Allah Acbar. And Elhamdullah I have already a higher education.
But I don't have a fiance yet. There is not too much Muslims in my country.
That's why I'm still alone. But may be because I was waiting for you?........
What do you think?......... I hope In Sha Allah you are felling now the same as I
do........... I want to know much much more about you that I know already.
As I understood you are also interesting in a lots of details about me.
Well, I'm 22. I have higher technical education. But I'm working as a journalist
for a few newspapers. I'm writing about art and culture. My city Kharkov is the first capital of the Ukraine, my country.
It's enough big city (2 mln. peoples). There are lot's of different events happen here
every day. But not too much cultural. That's why I have to work hard to
get my piece of bread. But I love to work. Elhamdullah...... Actually I like
any kind of job. I like to do house-keeping, cooking. I may say that I
cook very well, specially our national traditional ukrainian meals.
My family is not rich but very respertful. Elhamdullah! Everybody in my
family has higher education and speaks English, including grandmother.
Allah Acbar. My parents are both teachers in the University. I have an older sister Irina (she is 30) an yonger brother Roman (he is 19).
My sister is married and has her own family with one sun Dima. Before my
family was not only respectfull but also rich. But now in my country
is economical crise and we are not rich any more but still respectable and
well educated. Elhamdullah! And I'm proud of that. My mother teached me that
knowlege is much more valid thing than money. I believe in that. I'm optimistic very much. I love to laugh. I love nature. I love
raining and sun. I love life. And I want to love............ I have a real
Oriental temperament. And also I'm beautiful. Allah Acbar. I have durk hier, big green eyes and perfect figure.
And I want to give all of miself to that very one person. When I was just a little girl my mother told me that
I'm looks like a small Eastern Princess from fairy-tale. Are you my Prince?
Are you my destiny? As for me I hope so......... I was too too long waiting for you, my beautiful Prince.
In Sha Allah....... And what do you think about us? Dear, could you send me your
foto? I meen via regular post, not using Internet. I want to keep something real of you.
My address is:
Oksana Bocharnikova
Dostaevskogo str. 29, app.140
61040 Kharkov
Ukraine
Salam, Oksana.
I'm waiting for you.........
Allah Hafiz, Oksana.
P.S. I want to know everything about you.
Please, write as much as you feel to write.
I'll appreciate it very much.
Letter 2
Salam, dearest , dearest and ones more dearest,
I forget to thank you for all that nice words you've wrote to me......
for all those warm you gave me......... I can't imagine that we have to stop our relations.
I realized that we need to talk more and more.......... I need you. And I think that you need me also.
We really need to talk a lot and it's not possible by the phone - it is too
expensive. And regular post is too slow. How terrible to realize thet we could loose each
other. I'm sorry very much to ask you about ........something ........
but may be you are also thinking about that........ Is it possible you'll pay for my Internet?
I need 80 US dollars. Intrnet is very expencive thing here like everything
modern. After I hope In Sha Allah my material situation would be better.
And I could again pay it myself. My wonderful Prince, please, help me to do not
lose you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need each other!!!!!!! Please send me money via
Western Union Money Transfer. You may get an information about them at
www.westernunion.com My address is:
Oksana Bocharnikova,
Dostaevskogo str.29,app.140,
61040 Kharkov
Ukraine
tel. 00380 572 24617
Salam, your Oksana for ever.
But, dear, please do that fast because we almost don't have a time.
Thank you very much. In Sha Allah we could be together.
Salam yours Oksana
May be one time I'll have a possibility to do something for us or for you.
Allah bless you.
P.S.The matter is that at this time I've lost my second job which gives me
usseally a possibility to have an Internet. There is not exist Internet gratis here,
in the Ukraine. The bread or vodka, for example here is much cheaper than
anywhere, but such a modern things like computer or Internet are much much
more expancive. I've written an e-mail to my provider office and ask them
about a possibility to pay direcktly to them. And they replyied that it's not
possible for them to accept payment from abroad. I thought it would be easier
for you morally to pay directly to provider then to send money to me
persanly. But it is no way. Well, what could I say........... If you'll find material and also
moral possibility to send the money to me for the Internet, we will still have
the fastest way to talk. If not, please, write me via regular post.
Oksana Petrova (Magadan, Russia)
I just came across Elena Karaseva
on your black list. She is the same girl that tried to scam me. The letter that is posted is the same exact letter
I recieved except for the guys name and her name. She was using Oksana
Petrova, same picture too. She's dangerous, probably contacting numerous
men.
Tony
Greetings my love Tony.
I called to the American embassy, they have advised me to take the visa of the tourist.
This is visa B-2, it is valid during 90 days. It costs 220 dollars, but I
now do not have such money. If you can, send them to me through Western
Union, the address of branch is:
AVANGARD BANK
48A, YAKUTSKAYA STR.
MAGADAN
RUSSIA
685000
OKSANA PETROVA
When you will send money you necessarily need to write ten numbers of a
remittance. This means ten digit you'll be given in Western Union after sending
money. I am very glad that you want to see me. Unfortunately, to meet for us
are necessary money, but money is only a paper, The main thing is that we
shall meet with you. We should trust each other because we love each other
and we shall meet very soon. I called to the uncle to Vladivostok and he has
told that can make the ticket for me at a discount, but for this purpose it is
necessary to know where the international airport nearest to you. Else I talked
to my girlfriend who works in travel agency and she has told me that visa B-2
is the best variant for us you to meet. She speaks that when we shall meet we
can discuss how we shall live further. Yesterday I saw sexual dream about us
with you. It was dreamed to me that we meet with you, as you take me on
hands, we go to you home. At your home we go at once to bedroom and you
start to undress me, our hearts are beaten synchronously, we are passionately
kissed also you start to teach me to all pleasures of sex. I love you and I start
to understand that love this such a strong feeling. I am glad that I could test my
feeling with your help.
With love forever yours Oksana
  
Ukrainian
Date Club / Olena Makoviy /Alenochka (Odessa, Ukraine)
Here are three subjects your readers may be interested in.
1. VictoriaTours: First referred to on your site by Matt. They no longer
use the name VictoriaTours. The are now operating as Ukrainian Date club
at http://ukrainiandate.narod.ru
I dealt with them from April 2000 until August 2000.
I had the following experiences. The letters I wrote were not provided
to the lady I was writing. From her she told me they were read over the
phone. Also, the letters she "wrote" were not always written. VictoriaTours
translated her letters via the telephone. The lady's words to me. While
this is acceptable, her "letters" always spoke of her traveling to the agency
to write and receive letters. Additionally, from the lady's mouth, the
letters "translated" for me from her contained subject matter she knew nothing
about. Every "letter" from her included one to two subjects that I would
classify as "padding". As the agency charges per character it is my impression
they did this to increase their revenue.
As to their billing practices, they billed me $20 per month for the lady's
"membership". They did this despite my repeated requests to be billed only
for translation services. Talking to the lady, she told me she paid no
"membership" fee.
While visiting the lady in Odessa, I used their services for business visa
registration. The day prior to when they were to return my passport I informed
them I was taking an excursion. They informed me I was required to use
their services for such a trip. As their fee was 7 times greater than the
average cab driver I did not see the need to hire them. When I told them
I would not use their services, they made a veiled threat to not return
my passport to me. After repeated phone calls and informing them I had
a "roof", they backed down.
I changed translation services after the visit.
2. Alenochka: I have met this lady. Twice. She is the friend of the lady
I was pursuing. She has been listed with VictoriaTours (a.k.a. Ukrainian
Date club) since summer 2000 until late March 2001. During my correspondence
with my lady, I was frequently asked to provide a friend to correspond with
Alenochka, but NOT to use VictoriaTours. Alenochka told me she corresponded
with many men. Alenochka and my lady are very close friends and frequently
discuss correspondence with foreigners.
3. My "lady". Her name is Olena Makoviy. During 11 months of correspondence
different things occurred. To facilitate her learning of English I provided
her $514 in 4 separate payments from September 2000 thru December 2000,
sent via Western Union and delivered personally. By her accounting she
spent $72 on English lessons. The other money was spent for other "things". She
only admitted to (my term) misappropriation after she had written she was not
studying because of lack of money and after I asked what happened to the
money provided. When confronted about the "misappropriation" she accused
me of being greedy. Each time there was some dire emergency. Such as,
unexpected "schooling" expense for her daughter, breast surgery (which
never occured), etc...
Olena Makoviy is (at least) listed with CherryBlossoms, Excite,
Match.com, Kiss.com, AOL, and the EuroConnection sites. She uses the names Elena,
Aliona, Alenka and Helen that I know of. Her address is:
102 Dobrovolskogo Apt 91
Odessa 65025
Ukraine
Both Olena and Alenochka live in the Odessa region of poselok
Kotovskogo. Olena's e-mail address in her AOL ad is "alenkamakovey@yahoo.com"
If I were to categorize her modus operandi about requesting money, I would
say it is very subtle. She "hints" at needs for money and the "normal"
expectation that it should be provided. She refers to unforeseen "emergencies"
and how "it will take time, nerves and money."
Rumor: Shortly after "Alenochka" was removed from the VictoriaTours site
(a time corresponding to the post on this site, and the changing of the
name of the agency), an e-mail friend in Odessa who was attempting to run
an agency related to me that both Alenochka and Olena approached the agency
with a business plan proposal to attract men to Odessa by writing letters
and splitting the profits of the tour proceeds with this agency. The agency
refused. This is "rumor" because the agency does not want me to use their
name here.
I can tell you that my experience with Ukrainian Date club, Alenochka, and
Olena show me that what westerners perceive as honest business and serious
intentions are not what these 3 offer.
The 2 ladies are interested $$$. If this is what you want, go get it.
As to Ukrainian Dating club, I would classify them as criminal. The only
reason I think they unlisted Alenochka is because she was operating independently
(i.e. she was profiting on her own) and was impinging upon their business.
Regards,
Michael
Those are pictures of "My
Lady" Olena Makoviy (left) and her
friend Alenochka made in 2000-2001.
  
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