Black List - page 125: UPDATES
September 05, 2002 - page 1

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• Deny/Denis (Beloozersk/Minsk, Belarus)
• Elena Maximova (Tula, Russia)
• Elena/Lena Zelentsova (Minsk, Belarus)
• Luba Zaitseva 
• Oksana (Samara, Russia) ruslana <ztn@online.ru>
• Olga Maslokova
• Womens world of Lugansk

Deny/Denis (Beloozersk/Minsk, Belarus)

Well guys, here is a grim reminder that when someone expresses her love and asks for money via e-mail, then you are not the only one.

My name is Matt, and I'm a 35 y/o single dad. Before coming into contact with Russian women, I read Elena's, as well as the other sites offering advice about correspondence, customs, and scams. I decided to use Elena's starter package, so that women who were interested in me would contact me first, and I wouldn't have to fire out a bunch of e-mails and letters only to get no answer. I had several hundred responses, so it was easy to disregard requests for money, as well as agencies who wanted money to correspond to "their" ladies. As a result, I will be meeting 2 women in Russia next month. Between the two of them, I received over 70 letters. Both of them expressed their desire to meet me, and their hope that it leads to something better (unfortunately, it can only happen for one of them, but I'm confident it will work itself out when I meet them). But NEVER did they say they loved me, or make any future plans with me beyond my trip, and they NEVER asked me for a dime. So there was no chance of me being scammed.

Along comes Deny, who also contacted me, but after I made my travel plans to Russia. I wasn't interested in her, but I figured since she said she was coming to the US, it gives me a chance to meet someone without traveling too far. As you probably saw already, it's the same girl from page 118, trying to scam Kevin. One of the pictures also appears on page 66 under the name of Natasha Kravchenko. The letters and pictures were the same as Kevin got, word for word, including spelling mistakes. I smelled a terd right away when she starting using words like dear, darling, etc., and telling me that I was the only one she wanted. I questioned her about many things, including where in the US she was going, and how much free time she would have as a babysitter, and all she did was reassure me that there was alot of time for usto be together. Yeah, right! I got the same letter as Kevin got, where she  needed to find money right away. I replied to her never mentioning money,just the usual "How are you doing?" letter. Usually, she would write to  me every 3 or 4 days, but I knew what was coming when the next letter came the very next day.

Letters:

<Hello my dear Matt!!!! How are you ?I am not very good.This trouble with second tiket make me feel bad. I have big unpleasantnesses.I found 240$.But I need 80$ more and I dont know  where I can take it . I had been visiting all my friends, but there is no any result. You are the only my hope. Could you borrow me 80$? And I am going to return this money in two weeks when I come.It is very important for me.There is no time more for finding. I knew that it's possible to send money to me by International Money System named Western-Union. I will give you my address and my passport data. And you will have to report me the code of the money transfer which I need to know to receive this money. You are my last hope. In other case everything what I have been done and all my attempts will be useless because absence only 80$. Please, help me. Please, send me the answer as soon as possible,it is very important for me. With kisses your Deny!!! P.S.Sorry for bad news.> 

I replied with a lame excuse as to why I couldn't send money. I also suggested I could help in other ways if she sent me some personal information, but of course, she did not reply. Now, she already said that she bought a plane ticket, and has her visa, so here are some things to consider, and once you consider them, you will realize it's common sense.

If a family (or agency) in the US wants a babysitter, or any other type of service, from Russia, I'm sure they (or the agency) would be paying the airfare, knowing that she can't afford it. After all, they want her here, and they can't place their hopes on her suckering men into sending her money for airfare.

Also, someone who needs a visa to temporarily visit the US will NEVER (and I mean NEVER) get one unless he or she has a return ticket. 

And one more thing: DON'T SEND MONEY!!!!! Matt

Elena Maximova (Tula, Russia)

Hello, My name is Alan. I'm a single father of 4 children in Philadelphia. I have the exact same pictures and letters that a man named Mark has from Elena Maximova in Tula Russia. She got my name and E-mail from a Yahoo personal ad I have. The letters were pleasant enough just like Mark's and then the $350 request for money to get a VISA. I checked the embassy in Moscow and found out the Visa was $65.  I didn't send any money. Thank you for your site, saving both heart ache and money. 

Alan 

Elena/Lena Zelentsova (Minsk, Belarus)

Hi I am a 46 year old American male looking for a Russian lady. I met Elena or Lena on Lava Life. We corresponded for about six months. I had entertained the thought of a possible trip to meet her but our relationship never progressed beyond infrequent emails. Last week she sent me this letter which really floored me. Just like she said we don't really even know each other that well and she is asking me for 100 dollars. I denied her request and never heard from her again. I am sure I am not the only guy she has given this request. Be careful of this one guys...I think she is out to scam. Tim  PS the money letter follows 

Letter:

Hello, Tim! Thanks for your nice letter! Can I ask you for a help for me? I am in a difficult situation now, well , can you send me about one hundred dollars? I know that we know each other not so close, and it sounds a little bit awkward from my side, but I was given a promise , that in september I'll be given a job in a firm. I will be very gratefull if you can do this for me. I know that there is a system of Western Union banks that transfer money worldwide. It works here in Belarus. I feel not good asking you to help me, so, ..if you can't do this, I'll understand you. I am glad that everything is OK with you. Wish you a wonderful weekend. \Kisses and hugs Lena

Luba Zaitseva 

http://p.absoluteagency.com/profile/person.asp?pcode=11043&kod=A2035097 

I used a lot of different ways to ucover a scam of this girl from absoutescam agency she goes by Luba Zaitseva her email is "Luba" <leeloolove@pochtamt.ru> and is from 17 Lanina street with the same phone number +38 0642343178 as Natasha Kravchenko another known scammer who is posted on lots of scam alert pages She wanted 167$ for visa and was madly in love with me after the third letter. I have all emails to prove this. http://p.absoluteagency.com/profile/person.asp?pcode=11043&kod=A2035097

Oksana (Samara, Russia) ruslana <ztn@online.ru>

I'm a 26 year old man who was also contacted by "Oksana" through friendfinder.com (horoho3). She wrote me a message last week through friendfinder and said she was moving to my state within the next three to four weeks (not in those exact words…) I wrote "her" back and received another letter from her a few days ago. Just today I decided to write her back and contemplating what I was going to write, I had this crazy thought of copy/pasting the email into google.com and lo and behold here I am! I sure am glad I chose to do that! I am also glad that this site is here or I possibly could've been scammed!  Following are the letters that I have received:

Letters:

First from friendfinder.com:

Hello unacquainted friend. I read Your message and You me much like. I want with You to write to each other. My name Oksana live I city Samara, this small city. In september 24 numbers us send in America in Wisconsin. I hope that we with You are met. In the following letter I shall write You much all in detail,  With hope on meeting Your Oksana. Write me on my emal address: ztn@online.ru

Hi my nice Tom. thank You for letter, - is vastly pleased. Hope that near by us with You all will well. I will arrive in America september 24 as mercenary worker. It will do on work in dry-cleaner's or deprives the supermarkets. This will be known when I will arrive in America. Its flight route and in what city I must shall arrive I shall write later. Itself I work at infant hospitals, trained nurse. Also I show the voluntary member of Red cross, I like to help the people and do it good. Work to me like and I much like children, but delivery vastly small earnings, at month I get 25 dollars. This vastly little, and whole hope on be earned in America. Alive I with father, more near by us nobody No sisters no no brother,  ma from us remain when I there was 4 year. This vastly sad, but I hope that whole in the future will well. Itself I very faithfull and dedicated person. Like in the whole probity and only probity. Do Not Do to like the fraud and treachery. MUCH LIKE to prepare the food. The A great deal knows the recipes a cue prepare the food. The Play of Pit in piano, like ski. My birth day on july 28. I 24  year. I from Russia. The Children I have no. My growing 1 metre 63 centimetres. In America, which I must inhere 180 afterwards I must prolong its visa for 180 days else, for this I must hire the attorney, but I think that this will easy. The Hope on meeting with You. I vastly this wants. I must expect the answer with hope on majority to the best advantage. Always Your Oksana.

Olga Maslokova

Well this is my story,back in 1998 I started being interested in Russian women I look to the internet for answer to never ending quest of finding true love. I found an Agency that gives tour in the Caribbean at the same time that you could meet Russian women well, the first year I meet a women but we did not quite made it. then I meet Olga Maslokova trough the agency (Caribbean Connections) in the beginning it was ok with telephone calls and e-mail the I finally meet her after already spending about $2,500 dollars US in the calls and tickets and traveling arrangements for this girl. Well enough, She said she wanted to go to America, and she was serious about marriage and how much she wants to be with me. After spending $ 1,000 in the island of Jamaica for gifts, dinners and entertainment I was sure I was going to tie the knot for sure. Well, the week ended and she returned to Saratov there the calls continued and she mentioned she wanted to finish studying in the USA I paid a College the entrance Fee and made her application. She never responded to the day of the interview and she said she needed money to set up the travel arrangement and the student visa she asked for money( $ 500 USD) through Western Union first she insisted in moving to Moscow to live there to do the arrangement quickly and be close to the embassy after three months she asked for $ 2,000 USD Then started to stop calling and change her e-mail address she was never found and nobody knew of her at the telephone she gave me. The agency was not responsible for it either there was not a security in this. Currently she has a profile in Russianwomen.com or the interglobe agency. 

Womens world of Lugansk

I am writing you to provide my personal experience having to do with an agency that you have identified as one that is "blacklisted." It is Womens World of Lugansk.

I spent the Independence Holiday weekend in Kiev. The purpose of my trip was to meet with a lady I had been corresponding with for about 5 months. I must tell you that I had serious reservations about this agency in the early business dealings with them. This was due to seeing what was written on your website and the impressions that are presented there. 

I must tell you that this agency has been very forthright and honest with me since the outset of our dealings. The lady I met with is quite real and quite lovely. I have in my possession every letter sent to her and those I have received. At this point, there are almost 400 pieces of correspondence that have been sent to each other and from me to/from the agency. Included in our correspondence are photos of the lady I met with every gift that I asked be presented to her. I have also received photos of her family members and her trip to the shore earlier this year, photos of coworkers and places in and around Lugansk.

The reason for writing this letter to you is that I believe you are doing a disservice to a reputable agency and the ladies they represent. 

My opinion is that whoever initiated the negative comments to you simply had a bad experience and was venting his frustration or anger. The only other possible explanation is that he is affiliated with a competing business and wishes to slur the Womens World reputation. 

I can tell you that during my visit, Womens World provided transportation by auto for the lady I met, a translator and a driver. The translator not only did a very professional job in translation, but also took time to help both of us understand cultural differences that were important for us to accept and adjust to. The driver was courteous to me and I will say I was treated with respect. 

So, I would hope that in additon to the negative information you provide on your website, you would also have the honorable attitude to indicate that you have information that refutes these comments. Thank you. Ken

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