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• Aquarius_Travel Ukraine Grigory Orlov Inna Litvinova.
• Nastya_Grigorjeva
• Sveta Kalitina (Syktyvkar, Russia)
• Tatyana Botvinkina Kremenchug Ukraine
• Tatyana Svetlana (Kirov, Russia)

Aquarius_Travel Ukraine Grigory Orlov Inna Litvinova.

Re Kiss.com member called Ukrainian-sweety after many e-mails I suggested meeting She never asked for money but when I suggested meeting she said would only book via travel agent AQUARIUS TRAVEL as she trusted them. She said was worried about agreeing to meet a stanger who may have bought her a one way ticket so would only agree to meet if booked through AQUARIUS. I sent money for plane ticket to Aquarius_Travel@ukr.net Operators: Grigory Orlov / Inna Litnova After becoming suspicious checked with Aerosvit and found that no booking had ever been made in her name. She used an E-mail address: rockslg@yandex.ru  and tel number 0038 0642543118 postal address 8/38 Lenin street, Schastie, Zip 91006 

As a test sent flowers to address but Ukraine flowers said address did not exist. I maybe being naive but having exchanged many long E-mails and used intentionally complex language she was able to reply with long fairly detailed letters. I also spoke to her on the phone and her English was slow but she could speak English. I am wondering whether this was a straight scam or whether her parents stopped her from travelling and kept the money as she said they were friendly with the travel agent. Yours faithfully, Robin 

Nastya_Grigorjeva.

hi-ok, I promise this is the last email from me but I thought maybe you  couldn't open the letter attachments I sent regarding nastya grigorjeva from  yoshkar -ola, so I cut and pasted the letters into this email--hope it is  useful--happy holidays, david 

Letters:

Early letter from nastya grigorjeva (nastya221@yandex.ru)

9/27/01

Dearest David! I am happy, to receive from you the letter so soon! It was very interesting to me to learn more about your life. I am very glad, that has found such romantic man. I very much appreciate romanticism in the people. I want, that you knew, you the very rare man and very original. I would like to know you more. That that you have told about yourselves completely was entered in my representations about the ideal man! It is a fantasy! You can send me the musical works? Probably, you have works in treacker or midi a format? In archive they borrow much less places. I would be happy to receive your works. I too very much love dogs, and in general of animals. I had small aquarium (50 litres) with the several widespread breeds of fishes. I liked to look behind them, it is very interesting. The cats lived at us always, therefore I much about these animals. The horses I saw only a few time and was struck to their beauty and grace. But I read about them much.  David, tell, please, about the dreams, and plans for the future. It is very interesting to me to know. That you appreciate in the people, that appreciate in the women. You the very lovely man, I very much want to learn you closer. Also I dream that sometime we shall meet personally, and I can be convinced of your nobleness, being a near. Tell to me, please, more about the life. Tell about the family, about the enthusiasmes. Where you work? Do not hesitate! Can also to me to set any questions! I with pleasure shall answer to you!  I the very active women, I love all new and progressive, but, despite of it, in the personal plan I little bit old-fashioned, romantic both soft. Passion and softness mix up in me and give something, that it is difficult to describe. I while live with the mum and daddy, I have sister. As I already spoke, last time I have taken a great interest in the computer, but it is difficult to my female mind to understand modern engineering, but I very much try. I love sports, good music, cinema, I read (and not only fiction) much. I love to make gifts to the people. I think, that family this main in life of the man, because, that did not occur in life, in family always there should be a rest, heat and understanding. It means for me much.  In my city most of all of trees, than in all other cities of Russia. He is capital of republic Mari El. It is small region with bad economy, but with a perfect nature. The very small exotic people - mari here lives. Some years back I lived on a coast of the Black Sea in Crimea (now it belongs to Ukraine). I very much miss on a warm climate and sea. I liked the high, clean, dark blue sky, which did not create barrier to a look of soul.  I was happy to receive from you such interesting letter! You very much have liked to me. I feel, that you the very lovely man. I would like to know about you more!   Very much I wait for the answer!  Yours Nastya mailto:Nastya221@yandex.ru

the money request--- Jan 8 '02---different e-mail route

My Love! I have found out, the visa and the passport will cost how many, and I am slightly upset. The matter is that it is expensive for me I can not find so much money even if I shall work on this trip the whole year. Registration of the visa and the passport costs approximately 600 $. And the ticket aboard the plane Moscow - New York too about 500 $ - 600 (as to me have told, it depends on airline). That is as a whole travel expenses cost approximately 1200 $. It is very expensive for me, in our country USD are appreciated even more expensively than at you.  I do not know what to do, whence to take money? I very much want to arrive to you, and was already adjusted on it, but I did not think, that it is so expensive. Certainly, you might pay for me, but I can not give you this duty quickly (but if we shall get married, you you see will not demand from me this money? :-) What you will tell my love? What we with you shall make? I strongly suffer, that we with you a meeting costs a sort threat, it is very hurt for my soul. Answer me soon, may, you will think up something. I love you! Hot Russian Kiss!  Yours Nastya mailto:Nastya221@yandex.ru - from marina soboleva ; nastya's friend in moscow ( maria_soboleva@land.ru ) 

march 9 '02--

Good day. Nastya do not finding. Sorry, i don't know where she. I very worry, everybody don't know where she. I called in many hospitals, she is not present. I many knowing about she, but failed. In internet-caffe she don't see after first he coming. I reading all your letters, you mistake. Nastya, very very love you. She worred because you don't write to she letter. She said what you write letter every day and every haurs. But 7 march she don't see letter from you. She worryed about you, she know what you love she. She trust your feel, and she trust you. She don't insult. She very clever girl. She dont come beack in my flat not by means of you. She just was gone, and everybody don't know where she. Me difficlt about them write, but probably with she there was something bad. I be message to you if she be find. I am sorry.

march 12' 02 --final letter from nastya grogorjeva

My Love... I at all do not know what to tell you... With me much has taken place for  this time, it is a lot of events. These events have changed my life  irrevocably. I speak you bitter words, we may not be together, our happiness  cannot come true. I do not want that you blamed yourself, in all I am guilty only. Believe me so it will be better for you. Also do not ask me "Why?" If I might tell you I has told you the truth. I want that you knew, that time of dialogue with you was the happiest period  of my life, to my happiness and love there was no limit. My love to you is not present a limit and now. I love you and I shall like always, it is more than life, above all. My lovely David, I hope we shall meet sometime in the  other world and then we shall be together, we shall laugh and joke, we shall  be happy. Unfortunately, now it cannot be made in our world. I know, to you it is now very bad, I know, you probably cry. It is not necessary my prince, it is destiny and we may not that with it to do. You think, to you it would be easier if I have told the truth, no, I am sure to you was more hardly.I not come back home. I do not want that you informed my family and friends  that I am alive and that I wrote to you. I shall leave in other city and  probably can start life anew. I shall recollect you only warm words and the  best memoirs. David, write about me music or a poem, to you it will be easier. And then forget me. If you will forget me and will cease to suffer, it will be for me the best gift. I hope you can find the love with other woman, then when the pain will cease.Be happy, David, you it have deserved more others. The love moves the worlds,  our love will pass through centuries and distances, she(it) will find us, sooner or later... But not now. I shall love always you. Believe me, I too cry also to me very hurt, my heart hurt very strongly. I would like to write only I Love You! I Love You! I Love You! I Love You! I Love You! I Love You! I Love You! I Love You! And to beg all alive to allow us to be together. David, I love you, I am tired to be strong. David why so happened? Why?.. Why, such fine and sensual person as you I force to suffer? I can not any more, David. Why we may not be together? David. please love mine, forget about me. Also forgive me, forgive me, forgive me for all that pain which I have caused you... Always only yours Anastasia 

june 5 '02--- e-mail in response to a sympathy letter (not e-mail) I had wriiten to nasya's sister ,galina---

dear Sir, first of all i'd like to sorry for my english, i'll try to explain you who i  am and why i'm writing to you. My name is Nastya, i'm 20 years old, 2 days ago my mother's friend called me and told that she had a letter for me. Her friend Galina Grigorjeva received this letter.This letter was written for a girl whose name is Nastya and this girl has a friend Marina but Galina doesn't have any girls in her family whose name is Nastya. The matter is that my name is Nastya too, i live in the next house (krasnoarmeyskaya St 120 ) and i have a friend whose name is Marina. She spoke to my mother's friend and they decided that address was wrong and this letter was written for me, so that's how i got your letter. sorry but i'm afraid that i'm not this girl. I feel compassion to you that's why i decided to write you. And i think you shouldn't worry about this girl because she lied to you. She gave a wrong address to you and Galina Grigorjeva doesn't know this girl,so please don't worry,Yours, Nastya 

Sveta Kalitina (Syktyvkar, Russia)

Just thought i would let you know that this person Sveta Kalitina (Syktyvkar, Russia is the same as the person on your list known as Natalia (Syktyvkar, Russia)  same place and address  heree is a copy i recived from Natalia same as Sveta Kalitina  I have known coordinates of the nearest Western Union department in our city: GUTA BANK LENINA, 47A  SYKTYVKAR  167982 RU  Natalia Bahtina

From Black List - page 143: UPDATES
November 28, 2002 - page 3
Sveta Kalitina same as Sveta Kalitina (Syktyvkar, Russia which is same as  Natalia(Syktyvkar, Russia or a good chance of it same amounts of money in all thrre situations 

Superdave

Tatyana Botvinkina Kremenchug Ukraine

Miss fatewithyou67258, Tanya, she calls herself, can add an another trophy to her collect. How we met, it is hard to say, meaning I was on matchtalk.com one evening, e-mailing a few nice ladies. I signed off the net, and after 2-3 hours, I thought of one girl I missed. So, I returned to the matchtalk.com to complete what I had started. Well, on my incoming e-mail, there she was, saying "hello my dear friend" just like the other letters I read that she wrote to others. I didn't write to her, but I did fall in the same trap. I paid out $100.US for Internet cafe fees and $150 US for her little Nikita clothes.Her e-mail address: lonely_heart@02mail.ru The name she used: Tatyana Botvinkina Shevchenko Str. 7-3 Poltava Area Kremenchug, Ukraine I'm single my name is Ryan Phillips, I live in the USA, age: 47, medium built, Black hair & brown eyes. I'am still looking for a soulmate, I make a comforable living. If anyone needs any more information on the so called Tanya, Please let me know. My e-mail :maywin21@cs.com 

Tatyana Svetlana (Kirov, Russia)

Here is another update for this person. "She" still calls herself Tatyana, or Tanya but is from Kazan now. I received a new picture from "her" so here it is. You may remember me. I sent you an update on Natalia Chumienko. As I said before, I write to these "women" to get new photos so you can put these on your site. I think you are doing a wonderful job! Anything else I can do for you let me know. Sincerely, David

From Frederick to the Blacklist

Letters:

1st Letter:

Hi Frederick! Me call Tatyana. I was interested by your questionnaire. I closely studied your photo and any internal feeling has pushed me to write to you Frederick. You the nice man and by your questionnaire at you everything, that I consider as the main man's advantages. Such man as you, seems, that to me Frederick, capable to make the woman happy. I shall tell slightly about myself. To me 22 years, on a horoscope I scorpion, my birthday of November 20. My place of work, is small perfumery shop, I trade in different female spirits, lipsticks and various means of a leaving behind a body. I live together with the mum. I love dances, sports - I visit some times per week of employment on shaping. I adore to float, I love to travel, the truth I had not to get out far from houses yet. I think, that at heart very romantic man. To me to like to communicate with the different people and as the friends at me speak quite good sense of humour. I believe in the present love, I dream to visit in the different countries, but only not one, and near to the reliable man, which would love me and supported. Seriously I treat family and children. I shortly have told what I is. If it will be interesting, I shall tell about myself in more detail and frankly. With heat, Tatyana. 

2nd Letter: Notice the slip up when "she" writes: 'I am the very sociable, and vigorous MAN' lol.

Hi Frederick ! I am glad to your letter. Dear Frederick , I want to ask you to send a photo, where you in  complete growth, I want you completely to see and to know as you look also to me it would be pleasant, if you in detail have told  about yourselves, about the life, family and work. It is interesting to me to know about you Frederick , that you love, as will spend time, of what dream also with what to you it would would be desirable to see the future. Frederick , - I hope, you can find for me a little time what to  write the story about yourselves. I shall wait! I shall tell about myself. Family mine small, I live with the mother. The mum - social worker. Our attitudes very warm and confidential. I not bad have finished school, was then trained at university on a speciality the economist. Now I work as the seller in shop, but I think, that soon I shall become work there manager, that is on the speciality. In the given time I work in a cosmetic department. I send you a photo, I hope, that you it to like. The photo is just made on a place, where I work. My city Kazan in Russia large and very old. At us various concerts  and colourful shows frequently will be carried out. I the very vigorous man and frequently visit such measures. Some times per one week I visit employment on shaping, that my body would be in the order. I consider, that it is necessary.  You with me agree Frederick !?. I have a lot of friends, I the very sociable man, love various parties. To me very much to like to go in the visitors. I love to give gifts, to do to the friends surprises. I the very romantic girl. I dream of love, though probably each young woman wants, that in her life such would appear the man,  which would take away it far - far from boring life, would love her and cared of her. I very impressionable also can easily fall in love. I adore  the love novels, I dream to make some travels on a planet. Seriously I treat thin concepts as a marriage, children. I consider as the main quality of the married woman - a fidelity. In the men me to like sincere breadth, reliability, honesty and openness. Now your turn by a dear Frederick ! To tell to me the dream. You have interested me and has liked me Frederick . It seems, of  time you have written to me again, I too to you am nice. Frederick - you would like, what between us there would be closer and close attitudes? Write, you would like, that we had in the future something except for the letters.You see it is possible Frederick . We have got acquainted  with you not casually, and probably we can sometimes meet and carry  outtogether time. Frederick Write, you would like it. It would seem to me perfectly. Unfortunately now I need to go, therefore I finish this letter. With a heat to you Tatyana.

3rd Letter, and probably the last since I just e-mailed her to send me money before she could ask. lol

Hi lovely Frederick ! The thank for the warm letter, is very pleasant to read me it.  I send you a lovely new photo. It is made at me at home. Lovely Frederick , I want to you to tell, that I always wanted to be familiar with such by the man as you. I shall tell frankly Frederick - I want meeting with you, let though  one day, but carried out together with you. I do not know as for  you, but for me our acquaintance has the large meaning. Today has dreamed me dream, I felt, that your hands touch me, you love me, gently kiss ..... . I do not know, why so occurs: we are familiar all some time, and that, only under the letters, and I already frequently thought of you and with impatience I wait for your letters, and I feel in a breast pleasant heat, thinking about our future meeting. Frederick You at me the unusual man, you have managed only by one words to arrange a fire in my heart. Frederick I feel, that the meeting, first appointment is simply  necessary for us. We need better and closer to learn each other. I hope lovely, that you feel and think also. We are far, on many miles from each other. We have only words and photo, but letter, even from such man how you Frederick , can not give me sensations of affinity, so necessary to each woman. Lovely, I want to hear your vote, I very much want closely to nestle on you what to feel your body together with mine. Even the ideas on meeting with you cause in me strong excitement and simultaneously raise me. Probably it because I long was one, I do not know. Lovely mine Frederick , write that you think of my words. Whether  you are ready to speed meeting with me? Is gentle whole you. Tanya.

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