Natasha
Osipova (Ekaterinburg, Russia)
RE: Blacklist Page 151 Updates Jan. 6, 2002
Natasha Osipova (Ekaterinburg, Ru.)
The photos shown for Natasha Osipova are actually the real photos of
ALENA FEDEROVSKAYA. To my knowledge she is also using at least 15 other names as well as other photos as well. She is alive and well and is
continuing to work her scams to this very day. I too have been scammed by
this group. I have recently returned from Ekaterinburg and I have filed a
formal complaint with the police there. I am in constant contact with the police
over there and they have requested my help in finding others who have been
scammed by this group of people. There is a good chance we will all get our
money back but better yet this ring of crooks will be prosecuted. The police
can not prosecute without REAL claims. So far I am the only one who has
come forward. Anyone who has been scammed....PLEASE contact me and I will be happy to tell you what information the police have requested. To the
gentleman (David) who sent the info. about Natasha please contact me ASAP. You can help significantly!!! By all of us working together we can
make life very difficult for these criminals. Thankyou, Paul. My email address
is cat1inthesun@hotmail.com and my telephone number is 403-540-3811. This is very urgent and time is of the essence.
Victoria Batsman, Victoria Potapenko, both from Lugansk, Natasha from
Saransk, Juliya Grechuha from Lugansk, Vega Agency, Chance Agency and Discovery Agency
I am a white male and I would like to report to you about a scammer or a scam
by several agencies, it is hard to tell these days and I will let you be the judge.
The scammer in question is Victoria Batsman from Lugansk. Her e-mail address
is vica@vega.cci.lg.ua at Chance Agency, and her home mailing address is
Victoria Batsman, Levtchenko Block,13A,91, Lugansk, Ukraine, DOB is April
29th,1981 ( no phone of course). Under the profile at Discovery her name is
Victoria Potapenko and her DOB is December 9th,1981. Under another profile at
Matchdoctor, her age is 27 years old and is from Saransk, Russia with a DOB
May 9th, 1975 and has an e-mail address of djnatasha2002@rambler.ru .
The reason I feel she is a scammer, besides the obvious fact of having different
profiles and living in Russia and Ukraine, she of course hinted about money in her
letters to me right away (obvious scam alert). In her letters from Vega Agency,
she also gave me the agency address when I specifically requested her home
mailing address several times. The only reason I knew this was not her home
mailing address is that I was also writing to Julia Grechuha at the exact same
time and they both gave me the same home mailing address of the agency and
also had some of the exact same wording in their letters to me on the very same
day, how stupid can you be ( obvious scam alert). Julia Grechuha, from Vega
Agency, also hinted about money in her letters to me as well. This fact tell me
that the Vega Agency is probably writing so many pre-written cut and paste
letters that they can not keep track of all of them all. Discovery Agency is very
similar in that they try to get you to send them money for letters and translations
after the second letter to them. They also have many posting of the exact same
women but with different names and different profiles, very strange indeed!
I also received a letter from DJNatasha (Matchdoctor) from Saransk, Russia with the
exact same photos as Victoria Batsman in them, may be just a coincidence
once again-NOT! Something smells very fishy here and I suspect scammers are
up to no good once again. Victoria has a profile listed at Vega Agency
http://www.vega-agency.com/Profil_Gerls1.html and also under Discovery Agency
with the name of Victoria Potapenko at http://www.discovery-ua.com/galler/x664/potapenko.htm and also at Anastasia
#41891 (This is a good site in my opinion) which have just been removed by
them. Both Discovery and Vega Agencies have some negative reports on them
already http://scamalert.freeservers.com/parasiticagencies.html and are listed as
parasitic agencies and have many questionable ladies ( possible scammers).
Chance Agency
http://www.chanceagency.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?request=general&age=18
should also be included in this list of agencies "to beware of", as they try and
sucker you into sending them money for letters, gifts and translations for women
who may or may not exist. Many of the same ladies (scammers) are on Chance
Agency, Vega Agency and also Discovery Agency web pages ( May be it is just
some coincidence-NOT!) Something is obviously not right here, I am not sure if
the women know anything about what is going on here or may be they do, I can
not say but you can be the judge of this. I do know that Vega Agency, Chance
Agency and Discovery Agency are not to be trusted in my opinion. Please add
these agencies to your bad list as well as Victoria Batsman and Juliya
Grechuha. Sincerely, S.H.
The member of the "Vega" agency Victoria Batsman wrote:
Hi there , Here I am replying to your interest in me. First of all I have to
say thanks for your letter and for your attempt to start correspondence
with me. Judging by the fact that you wrote to me, I can say that you like the
way I look. I can remind you. I am blond with green eyes, rather slim and attractive. So you
are very interested in my inner world, perhaps. And of course you want to know
something about my everyday life. In this letter I will do my best to make you
understand who you are writing to. First about my family. I have a mother, a
sister and a brother, they are the closest people for me. We have very strong
relations in our family, we take care of each other and love each other very much.
I was brought up in a very friendly surrounding and I am very family oriented
person, cause my mother made her best to bring me up in this way. I am the
student now. I study at Lugansk pedagogical University. I am trying to get
journalistic education. I like this profession, I think I match it. I can be very
inquisitive sometimes. I do my best now cause I want to become a real professional in my future job. I
actually like to be a professional in any thing, I think if I do something I have to do it well.
I enjoy lots of things in this life. I like dancing, reading, cooking,
and even cleaning the house. As you can see I can become a professional wife one day <smile>. I have a hobby, it's horse riding.
This is the thing that I really adore. This is the place where I can feel absolutely
relaxed. I also have shaping as a hobby. I prefer to stay in a good shape.
I have a cat at home. And I must say that I like animals very much and
I can't stand cruelty towards them. I like music very much. I prefer classical, Latin and modern
music. It helps me to get energy sometimes and sometimes it helps me to relax.
I really enjoy listening to good music. I can say that I have no ideals in my life.
This concerns men as well. I think that all people are different and that's why
none of them can be ideal. Nobody knows what is the ideal. That's why I am
searching for a man who will match me. I know there is such a man. I would
prefer him to be right for me and that's all. Age or appearance is nothing to do
with real feelings, that's why I don't care about them. What is inside is more
important than what is outside, I think. I hope you liked what I have told you about
me and I will be very glad to get your reply soon. With my best wishes,
Victoria. vica@vega.cci.lg.ua
Hello, I would like to thank you for your letter. It was very pleasant for me
to get it. Thanks for the photos. You are very attractive and very well-built.
Your letter is very interesting. It seems to me that you you have a very
interesting and very active, I like active people. I would like to tell you some more details about my
personality. The main aim in my life now is to get good education and after that to
find some well-paid and interesting job, though it is not that easy to
do. I think such things as job are very important, they make people work hard, though I don't
want to involve all my life with the job. Family is more important for me. But it
doesn't mean that I would marry anyone just to have the family, I think I'll better
be waiting for my true love till the end of my life than marry anyone.
My friends say I'm sometimes shy, but I think everybody should have a little bit of shyness
in his character, it is the feature of the human-being. Spare time. What can I tell
you about that? First of all I try not to have too much of it and I prefer to make
myself busy with something when I have any spare time, but then it's not a spare
time. Still if I am really tired and when I need some rest, I prefer to change the
environment, like to go somewhere far or to visit my friends that I haven't visited
for a long time, or just to have a walk, or just to have a long sleep. It depends on
the degree of my tiredness <smile>. But when I have a vacation, for example, and
I have a lot of spare time, then I prefer to travel, to leave my town and to go to
another or most of all I enjoy going to the seaside or to the mountains. Those
are the places where I can have a real rest. I can say that I would prefer to stay with
the nature to be in harmony with it and with myself. But I don't think I like staying
alone, I enjoy having fun with my friends or family. And I've always been dreaming
about a vacation with a man that I would be in love with. This could be the
ideal of spending my spare time. What about you? What kind of spending
your time would you prefer to have? I'll tell you unpleasant news today. I have to confess
that I don't know English at all. I was very lazy at school to learn it, I never
thought it could be useful for me. I was wrong at that time and now I really
regret not having learned English properly. But I don't lose my hope to learn it. I have
found a very special course of English and I am going to go there to start learning
English form the beginning. I am almost ready for that, the only thing that bothers
me is the price of this course, it's rather expensive for me, but as soon as I have
the necessary sum of money I'll start learning English, I promise. I hope you are
not very much disappointed by that. I will be able to speak good English one day,
I suppose. Do you believe me? Who makes the translation then? I am the client
of the marriage agency. They help me to translate the letter from Russian into
English and in opposite. Otherwise, I won't be able to put the information
about me into the Internet, I don't have any access to the Internet. So as you can see
there are lots of problems with our correspondence. I have to pay for everything,
so sometimes I won't be able to reply on time, my replies can be late.
I hope all those things can become a barrier between us and I hope you
will continue writing to me. And I will be waiting for your replies. My dear friend, I haven't the
telephone at home, but if you'd like to call me, I can come to the agency and can
have a talk with you with you with the help of the translator. The number is +
380642580644. But the one thing we should arrange is the time of your call.
My regular post address is: Ukraine, Lugansk, 91055, Titova str. 7/15,
Batsman Victoria. My dear I believe in fate, a little bit, but you see only the fate
can make us more closer to each other and to make not only true friends but some more to
each other. I have some new pictures for you!!! Good bye my friend, I'm thinking
of you!!! Truly yours, Victoria. vica@vega.cci.lg.ua
The member of the "Vega" agency Victoria Batsman wrote:
Hello my dear friend , I'm so happy to hear from you again and more over I can
confess that I began to think about you!!!! I'm happy that you have had nice
holiday of Thanks giving and a turkey!!! My dear its a real winter in Ukraine, the
weather is so cold and windy, nearly 10 degrees below zero!!!Everyone is hurrying
in the streets and wear the fur coats and hats and gloves!!! More over it's
slippery!!! I prefer the winter , when it's cold but sunny and the show is sparkling
in the sun, like the small diamonds!!! I like the snowy winter to have the
opportunity to go skate or ski, it's my favourite way of spending free time in winter
from the childhood!!! Of course it's very good that we have central
heating in the flats, or we all will be frozen!! As for my address my dear, Ukraine,
Lugansk, Levtchenko Block, 13 A/ 91 Batsman Victoria. My birthday is on the 29 of April,
I'm a Taurus, according to the astrological sign and I'm energetic and demanding
and ambitious a little! I know what I want and usually try to get it. I never give up
without a fight, frankly speaking I like to be on the top, I hate toLose.
My dear, I'm always thinking about you, Tenderly yours, Victoria.__ vica@vega.cci.lg.ua
Dearest ! I was glad to hear from you. Thank you also for your pictures. I think
you are very attractive man. I'll start with bad news today. I have to confess that I
don't know English at all. I was very lazy at school to learn it, I never thought
it could be useful for me. I was wrong at that time and now I really regret not having
learned English properly. But I don't lose my hope to learn it. I have found a very
special course of English and I am going to go there to start learning English form
the beginning. I am almost ready for that, the only thing that bothers me is the
price of this course, it's rather expensive for me, but as soon as I have the
necessary sum of money I'll start learning English, I promise. I hope you are not
very much disappointed by that. I will be able to speak good English one day, I
suppose. Do you believe me? Who makes the translation then? I am the client of
the marriage agency. They help me to translate the letter from Russian into
English and in opposite. Otherwise, I won't be able to put the information
about me into the Internet, I don't have any access to the Internet. So as you can see
there are lots of problems with our correspondence. I have to pay for everything,
so sometimes I won't be able to reply on time, my replies can be late.
I hope all those things can become a barrier between us and I hope you
will continue writing to me. And I will be waiting for your replies. I would be very glad to give
you phone number but the problem is that I don't speak English at all, so we
won't be able to communicate. But I can give you the phone number of the
marriage agency, I use their service cause I don't have computer at home and as
I've already said i don't speak English. We could talk in the agency, they will give
us an interpreter. Their phone number is 38 0642 58 06 44. but before
calling there you'll have to mail me when should I come to talk to you.( the
time)But don't forget about the time difference between our countries.
I am waiting for your reply. If you are ready to do all that, then
just say when you will call. My postal address is Ukraine, Lugansk, Titova street 7/15 and postal
code is 91055. Well, I end my letter here, I would like to know your opinion about
everything I wrote here, hope to hear from you very soon, sincerely, Juliya.
grechuha@vega.cci.lg.ua
Hello, I have received yours e-mail address from matchdoctor.com. I hope that
you have recollected me. My ID DJNatasha. Thank to you for your interest. Now I
am not sure that you are interested in the relations with me. I send you some
photos and probably if you will find me good looking I can write to you more in
detail about my life. Please write about your life and that you want in life and
send some your photos. I shall answer necessarily. I think that you heard about
tragedy in our country. It is awful. Though war far in Chechnya, we constantly feel
a vote of war. We constantly receive news about the lost soldiers and peace
inhabitants, we frequently hear about the terrorist acts which happen on all our
country. It is a trouble. I do not know that you could hear in your country. It was
the capture 750 hostages at the centre of Moscow. All our country 3 days lived
only by expectation of destiny these unfortunate people. In a result when the
Chechen gangsters (they were under drugs and a lot of alcohol) have begun to kill
of the hostages our government was is compelled to make a decision on storm
the seized building. All 50 gangsters were destroyed from them there were 18
women. 2 gangsters have taken in captivity. But were lost 119 hostages. It is
awful. I shall not describe all my emotions in this occasion. I think that you
understand all and sympathize our tragedy. Now, as you know my name
Natasha. Bye! Good luck! Natasha.
Hello my new friend ! Thank for your letter and photo. I am happy that you have
the serious attitudes to continue acquaintance with me. I for the first time use
such opportunity of acquaintance. Very interestingly as far as it can be real.
Unfortunately I am compelled to begin the letter from a not so good word. I want
to be honour with you and I you not should speak that not first and not unique
who I wrote. I hope that you understand me. Probably sometime I shall write only
to you. Unfortunately not all men also have such as you the serious attitude. 2
days back I have written the letter and has sent photos to the man on a name
Quentin from Argentina. It is the madman. Or patient man. And now he sends me
photos (disgusting) and my letter box can be full. I try frequently to delete it, but it
does not help. Therefore I am compelled to receive the new address. I ask you to
answer me on djnatasha2002@rambler.ru It is my new address. Forgive that I
write you such things, but it is necessary. So, I promised to tell to you about my
life. ??? from what to begin? I shall try. Who I am? I the Russian girl which never
was marriage and I have no children. You will ask why. A logical question, but
very difficult. Probably it is the high requirements to the man. Understand, I do
not want to find beautiful as Alain Delon and strong as Arnold Shwarzenegger. I
want to give all my life for the real man. Serious, clever, strong but gentle and
romantic, which will be cares of me and our children, will divide with me troubles
and pleasures, to preserve our family. It seems very little but in a reality it very
seriously. I live in city Saransk in republic Udmurtia in central part of Russia. It
is magnificent city. Very old and very beautiful. In our city there are a lot of
churches and temples. I very much love to go for a walk on streets of my city and
to listen to music of bells. I live in a small apartment on far from city centre. This
apartment I was presented by my parents when to me there were 20 years old.
I have finished medical institute and now I work the doctor-pediatr in one hospital of
my city and 2 times in week I work radio-DJ. I very much love my work, I love
children and I love to help children. But sometimes my work brings to me a lot of
disappointments. My work it basically to visit families which the patients children
have. Sometimes it is awful. Some families are a hell for the child. Some parents
drink alcohol, use drugs, beat children. It is terrible. What man can grow up from such family? I try to give all forces for the help to children. Children this our future
and we need to care of children. My other work is participation in organization till
protection of children. It is good organization, where work in the basic woman: the
doctors, teachers, psychologists etc. we do not receive money for our work, but
we receive more. We receive love and gratitude of children, each child, to which
we have helped is a drop in ocean of our future. And we are sure that our "drops"
not poison and not the dirt is pure and honour children which never will cause evil
to someone. I can much speak about it, but I think that you first of all now
interested by details of my life. I was born May 9 1975. My parents the teachers.
I very much love my parents. They have learned me to love the literature and have
given me good education. My English is not so good, but is above the average
level. Is a merit my daddy, which constantly learned me. Now I have forgotten
much, but I think what my English is good enough that you understood me? My
parents wanted to see me also by teacher but I from childhood dreamed to be the
children's doctor and now I has carried out it. I have the older sister, which lives in
Rome (Italy) and works there in a travel company. She very beautiful and clever
woman. But not so happy in personal life as well as I because have much higher
moral principles than I. And I am afraid, that she still will be long to search the
man of her dream. I have written to her that I want to try to search the man of my
dream using the Internet, she has answered that I the silly girl and it not really.
But I have decided to try and very much I hope that it probably. Now I should go
to my work. I wanted to write more but my English I am not so good and I write
slowly sometimes using the dictionary. Some more words about my appearance.
Please do not think that I am beautiful as the model. I the usual woman. My
daddy has the friend which professional photographer and he made these photos.
Probably later I shall send you not professional photos but now I have no it.
I wait your letter on djnatasha2002@rambler.ru Best wishes! Your Russian friend
Natasha.
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